Official: CyCon negotiations

[Voltaire]

Someone check that over and see if it is fine to send before I go ahead with it.

Thanks

[Jamski]

Nononono!

Say that we accept it, and they can expect the ecs next turn, but we don't have enough now.

Then they move thier cruiser home as promised, and we smack them when they do not expect it.

If you really HAVE to go to war with the CyCon, then its best to be extra nice to them first.

Please don't waste all my hard work in the general forum.

-Jam

[Micha]

I think Jamski has a point there. I support his version of the reply, for it lets us strike when they expect it least.

[Jamski]

They may even send 60 ecs to PEACE this way for no expenditure on our part

-Jam

[Snowflake]

I agree with Chairman's reply. We are going to attack Uni THIS turn. There is no point to pretend extra nicely. In their turn they will see all that they need to see and they will not send any ecs to PEACE. I would rather we don't add insult to enjury for them. If we do what Jamski said a lot of CCs will feel cheated, not to say they will feel cheated anyway.

[Snowflake]

PM between Me and Maniac. Not intended to represent the team or anything. Rather it is kind of a personal communication between two players, but I thought I should post it here for all to see in case there might be any leak of information or things like that.

Maniac,

I'm really sorry to hear that. I can understand your frustration about the internal affairs. I'm not Kody or you but I do have the same feeling. When we had the shaddow ministry, Kody and I enjoyed a very short period of relatively being free from having to spend countless hours to explain stuff but as you know that only lasted for two turns I think.

As for the Diplomacy stuff, I suppose it in a large degree is my fault. Perhaps I've "roleplayed" it too much. Please understand though, that non of those are anything personal. Even the "inventing fictitious reasons" part. Not sure if it makes you feel better if I say that we actually do not "believe the bull**** and lies" we put out in RL, we are simply play it since we are the Hive. This being a team game would mean there will be teams who win or lose. But I really don't want to see anybody's feeling being hurt by the game. You know me, I certainly don't feel any amusement by "slaughtering" people. You know that I actually tried so hard that we can win this together. And I also tried to make the game fairer to everybody by kind of leaking Hive info to you before your peace war and suggesting you and uni and peace pact together. I was actually happy to see the merge of CPU even thought that might have been the mark when CC and Hive were formally driven apart.

Last thing I would like to say is that I am really impressed with the sharp insight and good skills you presented in this game. I really hope that you can stay. There are only these few people who are crucial to the game and make the game a worthy experience to all and you are one of them. I would really really miss you if you really leave us.

Please stay.

Hong

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Frankychan
And to Comrade HongHu, I'm sorry if I shifted the burden towards you, but you do speak with the drones rather frequently. His sapping of info didn't work though.

No problem there Comrade Frankychan. He was obviously trying to get some info about Drones from you and you fend him off well.

[Frankychan]

Thank you Comrade HongHu!

1> I've grown tired of discussing Internal Affairs orders. I guess you could consider me more or less the Kody of CPU, checking what former orders or credit investments are most cost-efficient and give the biggest return etc. Since around MY 2150 I have been increasingly succesful in making my ideas state policy. However unlike Kody who I assume more or less had carte blanche to do whatever he wanted without much discussion, CPU has a democracy, meaning about everything is discussed. This means I had to spend hours each year explaining to other cyborgs why their IAF proposals are not cost-efficient. Without any use of course, because the year after they would again make IAF suggestions that for any moderately experienced SMACer would look inefficient at first sight. This gets really boring after a while.

This is why running Police State is always better.

Furthermore, while Comrade Jamski's idea is interesting, I would have to agree with Comrade Chairman and Comrade HongHu in that we shouldn't even fake into giving them reparations. If they are expecting us to give them 60creds in return for them moving their ships away, they aren't going to move their ships until they get the creds...so that proposal is moot.

Since Function Maniac (assumes) knows that we are going to smash them, why don't we just oblige and eliminate CPU...but watch out for the Drones.

Even though they have proven themselves honorable, there's a first time for everything.

[Mead]

Originally posted by Frankychan

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I would have to agree with Comrade Chairman and Comrade HongHu in that we shouldn't even fake into giving them reparations. If they are expecting us to give them 60creds in return for them moving their ships away, they aren't going to move their ships until they get the creds...so that proposal is moot.

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What!?

We would pay CyCon to move their away from us now?

Please say it isn't so.

There is little that renders more fun than destroying ships with airpower.

We need them close to our needlejets and choppers, not further away.


Mead

[Frankychan]

Jamski's proposal is to fake them into moving their ships away in exchange for reimbursement of the CP. Since they pretty much know that the Hive hammer is going to fall...we shouldn't even bother with deception now.

[Mead]

Originally posted by Frankychan
Jamski's proposal is to fake them into moving their ships away in exchange for reimbursement of the CP. Since they pretty much know that the Hive hammer is going to fall...we shouldn't even bother with deception now.

I just looked at the new turn.

The cruiser that killed the Peace schooner is within range of our needlejet in New Moscow. I think that should be our opening shot.


Mead

[Frankychan]

Hmmm, tempting.

Although we should talk about this with the CMC.

Would that be the opening shot of the Hive/CPU war? Additionally, how does this effect our plans with the Drones....since they obviously have a hunch that war with the Hive means war with the Drones.

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by Frankychan
Hmmm, tempting.

Although we should talk about this with the CMC.

Would that be the opening shot of the Hive/CPU war? Additionally, how does this effect our plans with the Drones....since they obviously have a hunch that war with the Hive means war with the Drones.

The invasion of the University has already begun, we're at war with the CPU, there is no going back.

[Frankychan]

Yay!

Where are the updates?

[Mead]

Originally posted by Frankychan
Yay!

Where are the updates?

Look in Turn 2160 Thread


Mead