Hive Strategy

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by War of Art
We should build as fast as possible to the efficency limit (12 bases on Trancsend?) and then start on the troops, or did you mean starting a millitary as soon as we can get the lasers??

-Jam

Hold of on military production until we expand if we’re on the continent by ourselves. If not, get the military out ASAP.

Just a note about expansion, personally I am of the school that we should be getting every new base to produce at least 2 colony pods before anything else, even 3 though I think that’s pushing it. The trick it to reach a balance between continuous expansion and infrastructure/military production.

[Jamski]

We'll have to allow the bases to grow a bit before they can produce pods. I reccommend Scout Patrols and Formers (when we get the tech) We can upgrade the Scouts later, or just use them as police. Also we'll hit the inefficency extra drones pretty fast on Trancend level.

-Jam

[Voltaire]

We were discussing terraforming policy earlier, and it seems that the majority of the PAC membership agrees with the forests outside base radius proposal (save for rocky areas, and where we put boreholes, etc.).

As for inside the base radius would someone please post the most efficient uses for each of the tile types so that we may determine in which tiles we should plant forests, and in which to cultivate farms.

-Chairman Voltaire

[Jamski]

With Hybrid forest & Tree farms, forest every square we can, with mine+road on the other squares. Simple. Without, its a bit more complicated...

Forest gives 3-3-2 with the improvements in place, 3-3-3 with a river, IIRC, and we won't get better than that. Oh, but we should put a condenser and a farm on any nutriant bonuses.

-Jam

[Vev]

I am afraid I probably would not be adding much to the strategy. But what you have discussed, I am listening keenly, and learning little things.

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by War of Art
With Hybrid forest & Tree farms, forest every square we can, with mine+road on the other squares. Simple. Without, its a bit more complicated...

Forest gives 3-3-2 with the improvements in place, 3-3-3 with a river, IIRC, and we won't get better than that. Oh, but we should put a condenser and a farm on any nutriant bonuses.

-Jam

That is logical, and from this moment onward that will be the official general Hive terraforming policy (to be implemented as soon as we get formers).

On another note, we also need to discuss our research path, and what technology to research first.

-Chairman Voltaire

[Zero]

Originally posted by Voltaire


Hold of on military production until we expand if we’re on the continent by ourselves. If not, get the military out ASAP.

Just a note about expansion, personally I am of the school that we should be getting every new base to produce at least 2 colony pods before anything else, even 3 though I think that’s pushing it. The trick it to reach a balance between continuous expansion and infrastructure/military production.

you graduated fomr the same school then i guess.

[Rokossovky]

[QUOTE]
Originally posted by Voltaire

Hold of on military production until we expand if weÂ’re on the continent by ourselves. If not, get the military out ASAP.
QUOTE]

This is a good idea. If there is another faction on our continent it is wise to be rid of them now so that we avoid a long and drawn out conflict later in the game as they would be busy building colony pods and formers; not military units.

On the topic of military units; Planet Busters are not practical for general warfare. Their primary purpose should be deterence (when you attack with them you destroy the land, making it useless for our expansion). Nerve gas on the other hand is my buddy. It should be on ALL of our units that can take it as it provides a very useful edge in combat when one finds oneself in a sticky situation (not for use on everything, ppl get pissed). More specifically, when we do start building a military, push the police to the max with infantry (as stated before), but also maintain a fairly sizeable mechanized division at all times to respond to sudden attack (move around and behind the attacking units and drive into their territory, they will be forced to retreat to save their cities, giving us time to mobilize and launch a full sustained assualt).

[Googlie]

A couple of thoughts to ponder (from Vel's Strategy Guide):

Consider building a sensor array on any tile before you found a base on it - that 50% defense bonus gets multiplied by all the perim defs, etc etc (it does slow down expansion a tad, as it usually takes 3 to 4 turns to build the array, but especially valuable in coastal bases) - and it can't be used by attacking forces as an open-site sensor array can

Build a PlanetBuster as soon as you can - every advanced weapon therafter comes already prototyped

For anyone who hasn't got a copy of Vel's Guide, here's the link to his website where an early version resides:

http://renaissanceforums.community.e...&view=standard

G.

[Vev]

For some reason I cannot access the link due to:

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[Googlie]

trying again:

http://renaissanceforums.community.everyone.net/commun_v3/scripts/thread.pl?MessageID=145663&NodeID=48436&view=standard

(seems to work this time)

G.

[Jamski]

Back to terraforming... the forests everywhere approach needs at least the treefarms in place before it starts really working well. This should be an early research target IMHO. This basically means avoiding all the red techs early game, also we won't need social psych, or any of the "doctrine" or "progenitor" techs. It doesn't fit so well to being aggressive in the early game.

Discuss.

-Jam

[Voltaire]

Originally posted by War of Art
Back to terraforming... the forests everywhere approach needs at least the treefarms in place before it starts really working well. This should be an early research target IMHO. This basically means avoiding all the red techs early game, also we won't need social psych, or any of the "doctrine" or "progenitor" techs. It doesn't fit so well to being aggressive in the early game.

Discuss.

-Jam

If we're on a landmass by ourselves this shouldn't be too much of a problem since there would be no need for early conflict. I guess we will have to wait and see before we finalize any plans.

Alternatively, if we do encounter another faction on the same continent we are on taking them out should take precedence over anything else.

Though I'm torn as to which would be the best circumstance for our faction. On the one hand, if we're isolated it allows us to exploit the full potential of the Hives' industrial strength. On the other hand, early conflict would give us an overwhelming advantage given that none of the other factions (save for the Believers) would have had the chance to fully take advantage of their benefits.

-Voltaire

[Jamski]

Well, we're on a standard size map, so we won't have tooo much space to play with (prays to find the Monsoon Jungle over the hill)

-Jam

[Voltaire]

Damn, I keep forgetting we're playing on a standard map. So used to playing on huge I've almost forgotten there are smaller maps.

Which begs the question, how soon do we invade anyone? We can't wait too long, but wars have seldom been won with stupid haste.

-Chairman Voltaire