HIVE diplomatic exchanges

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Drogue
I believe it. They have a point, and in their situation, I'd do the same thing. We know HongHu has gone out of her way, even hurting her faction, to be honest. I suspect the Hive of plotting against us, as I would in their situation. I do not suspect HongHu of lying to us.

I have not lied. But I have to admit that that was the closest to a lie that I've ever said. We have had discussions and some indeed considered allying with CPU but the majority was against the idea and the purpose of that message was to stall time. The Hive had been planing to attack Uni for a long long time. We had not planned attacking CCs until much later but we were not going to give up our Uni invasion plan that we have prepared for so long just because of your unification.

While reading the thread I realize that both the Hive and CC were thinking the trades that I was trying to push were uneven and favor the other faction. I wish that we had viewed the deals differently at that time, that we had realized a strengthened relationship is much more worthy than a few techs or SPs. If it was a pbem with me as the Hive and Drogue as the CCs I'm almost be 100% confident that the end result is going to be different.

The first indication I've got that Hive CC relationship was not going anywhere was when I wasn't able to get any real trade done. It followed with my PMs and chats with Drogue, Mainac and Impaler. I still had hope at the time. But more incidents happened later and I had basically given up on joint victory with Drones and CCs when I resigned from the CC embassador position because I foresee lots of deceivings to be done and I couldn't stand that, and I knew I would leak information if I were still at that position.

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by obstructor


She must think of our badgering of Hive members. I think she cant stand little teasing from our team while Hive can put up a thread full of **** to annoy us (planetary council motion blah blah). I can stop it, but I am puzzled that Hive doesn`t approve some teasing in Trash Talking Thread while they openly claim we are aggresive warlords seeking to conquer Hive?

Nah. I was actually referring the "Peter" incident. I do not have a problem about the Trash talking thread. I wouldn't have participated would I if I have a problem with that? BTW you are right the planetary council motion and others are exactly what it looks like, an arrogant Hive's argument to support why it was going to war. (We were actually trying to mirror the US in this case. )

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Maniac
Dear Function Maniac,

I was notified that the colony pod your captured is determined to be affected by an unknown planet virus that may be deadly and highly contagious. The Hive coastal guard had to take it out because it posed great potential threat to the Hive's security.

Comrade HongHu

What I really meant: It was believed that you may use that colony pod to set up a base and send a bunch of planes the next turn and surprise attack the Hive. I did not suspected that but yes it was indeed believed by some in the Hive.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by HongHu
I have not lied.

If that wasn't a lie, I don't know what is.

Nah. I was actually referring the "Peter" incident.

Again, don't (only) shoot the messenger...

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by HongHu
What I really meant: It was believed that you may use that colony pod to set up a base and send a bunch of planes the next turn and surprise attack the Hive. I did not suspected that but yes it was indeed believed by some in the Hive.

CyCon didn't had any planes at the time. Something that could easily be checked by infiltration info from the Drones.

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Kody
I was kicking myself out, repeatively and honghu kept bringing me back with her stories of her struggling to keep the Hive going. I never could say no to her.

Yes, that's true. I begged Jamski before too, but he is always busy drinking and dancing on the table. I think I really owe you a lot Kody.

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by Maniac


If that wasn't a lie, I don't know what is.

Every sentences I wrote were true, although used to disguise the real intention ...

Again, don't (only) shoot the messenger...

Nah, it was quite fun actually.

To tell the truth, I've learnt a lot in this ACDG. Especially about how to loosen up and not to be too serious about a lot of things. Many times if you look at an incident from another perspect, or at a different time, you'd have much different feelings.

[Snowflake]

Originally posted by GeoModder


CyCon didn't had any planes at the time. Something that could easily be checked by infiltration info from the Drones.

I was actually trying to say let you build the base, it would not be defended, and would not be a serious threat for the Hive. However IIRC the information is that you are getting DOP or already got it so you could make planes and use the base.

[Kody]

To tell the truth, I've learnt a lot in this ACDG. Especially about how to loosen up and not to be too serious about a lot of things. Many times if you look at an incident from another perspect, or at a different time, you'd have much different feelings.

Me too

[MrWhereItsAt]

From my part, although not the most active in proceedings, when I was about and up-to-date, it seemed form Hive communications that there were worse activity problems in the Hive than in the CPU, namely that the one or two people who were active were Spamski (until he defected) and HongHu almost alone, and if we had their approval/support as communicated to us, that counted for a LOT. I really didn't know there were other active members of the Hive who did not favour working with us, and that is why it puzzled me when the Hive seemed to talk to us with one face yet talk more friendly to other factions with another face.

There's some real communicating situations issues here

[Snowflake]

No, the issue's decided even before you joined MWIA. When you joined it was me and Rubin and Mead I think who were the major Hive players and the fate of the game has already been decided. What we are talking about here for example the Hive Drone alliances really happened long before you joined.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Very sad to hear. So I should have (in hindsight) not pushed to trust you guys?

[Snowflake]

It was almost too late to push for trusting the Hive after the council motion. There was one chance though I offered to you, disguised with a joke about hanging Jamski. You guys could have got me to work with you again after the PUT was gone. You should have already known at that time that PUT was Hive's main enemy and the Hive's was not going to change its attitude toward it. However even at that time it was still not determined that the Hive must destroy the CCs. However nobody picked up my hint.

[Maniac]

I was the one who proposed the unification between PUT and CyCon. So personally I preferred defeat over betraying PUT, even if that would mean victory.

[GeoModder]

Just posted so as well in the Hive forum, but I and Obstructor did sent friendly signals to you, HongHu. Your response came down to that you didn't thought the remainder of Hive would except it at this stage of the game. We simply gave up then and made the best of it.