External Affairs Function's Office

[Drogue]

I'll have a look. If Margaritaville is right, then that's a hell of a guess The 3 with Liar's Lair go together in that format (significant overlap) so if something matches the positioning of those 3 exactly, then we have those too.

[Drogue]

DBTS: What did you say to Miriam to get Non Math? How did you put it? I don't want to mess things up I'll trade with Angels first, but when it comes to Miriam, what do I say, and how to stop her closing dialogue box after selling Doc Ini?

[DeathByTheSword]

well she asked for the tech.. i said: only for 25 Ec to cover blabla...then she didnt close and i could ask her to trade techs...she said what do i get i return...and you offer money

[Drogue]

Sounds good

[Googlie]

See the midturn save in your war thread (I opened the turn, sold Doc Init to Roze and to Miriam for 25 ec's each and also sold Ind Auto to Roze for 25 ecs then bought Nonlinear Math from Miriam for 150 ecs)

The rest of the turn hasn't been touched, so there is a diplo offer still on the table (from the Hive, I believe) plus units to move and build orders to give, etc.

All I did essentially was the AI negotiating stuff

G.

[Drogue]

Thanks Googlie, much appreciated

[Maniac]

I'll respond here to the comments in the Turn Report thread:

DeathByTheSword:

its peace....

Why do you think so? From the basescreen infiltration information we have, there doesn't seem to be any PEACE base with land fungus in its south west.

Drogue:

It should build an Impact Cruiser IMHO, since then we can take some of the undefended bases. Also we don't have stuff for the transport for a turn or two IMHO.

Whatever. I guess infiltration isn't that important, if and only if the Hive is gonna start providing us with lots of screenshots of all PEACE bases, their F7 unit information, technology information etcetera... If not, I think we should still infiltrate asap.
Btw, there already is a probe defence underway to Pi Square and another is being built in Apolyton Prime, so we can send send an infiltration team underway as soon as the transport in Pi Square would be finished.

[Maniac]

Should we let the 2-1-8 cruiser make a detour to (80.44) as we'll likely discover a base then?

[Impaler[WrG]]

YES, a quick 2 spaces west should reveal who that is north of us, I suspect its the Drones and that out ship is inside of a Bay that is surrouned by a cressount shaped Drone Island. And north of the drones we would find the Hive someware up at north Pole.

If we do end up being in a bay then we should head south and continue Eastward and Northward, comiting this Laser Cruiser to exploration, also the East is more to contain unpoped Pods and the Islands of other factions.

[Maniac]

I already moved the Laser Cruiser a bit west to see who was there, so we could discuss what action to take before a possible turnchat. The result is a PUT base called Monitoring Station. (Don't mind the graphics.)



The ship also discovered a shallows which can take us quickly back to the western seas without having to sail all around the Ruins peninsula again. So now my question is what route we should take next. Possibilities are:

• North to delve deeper into PUT territory
• West to get back to the western seas and perhaps tentatively explore PEACE territory.
• Follow the long southern route to explore our own southern coasts. We would then end up in Boolean Bay around the time our transport would launch its invasion.

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I also noticed the Drones have somehow acquired HEC. Should we send them a message asking to keep this technology among ourselves and not distribute it to other factions unless perhaps we mutually agree to do so?

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So what message should we send to PUT?
How about asking for a treaty, say we can offer them the frequencies of the Drones, Believers and Angels and say we're interested in tech exchanges, and that we can offer techs such as Applied Physics and Doc:Ini? Should we mention our military techs HEC and NonlMath?

[Impaler[WrG]]

Monitoring Station is one of the University default City names. Perhaps the University is not coming up with original names for their Cites but are insteda simply using the auto names. This could provide an insight into the order in which they founded their bases. Someone open up the University Text file and find out ware in the list Monitoring Station is, that tells us the minimum number of bases that they have.

By the way what kind of Garrison did the base have (you did remember to check that out right )

[Maniac]

1-2t-2 green trance scout skirmisher

Edit: the presend file confirms my memory.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Interestingly, that Uni base is built on a Sensor Array - gues they are psycho for defence... Although that may not be a bad idea for US for the future.

Monitoring Station is basename #20 in the SMAX list, so I don't think they have just left it as is (unless they somehow have 20+ cities and yet their power is about the same as ours), instead they may have deliberately chose it as a default name they liked, or in order to confuse the rest of us!

I think that we should push a little deeper into PUT territory, then return after one turn of exploration to perhaps upgrade ready for the assault. The one thing worse than having too many troops is having too few.

Everything else looks good, I think.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
Interestingly, that Uni base is built on a Sensor Array - gues they are psycho for defence... Although that may not be a bad idea for US for the future.

I agree. As for the reason we haven't yet used this trick ourselves: we've always had too little formers to be able to terraform ahead our future base locations. And with the coming war I doubt that will improve.

Monitoring Station is basename #20 in the SMAX list, so I don't think they have just left it as is (unless they somehow have 20+ cities and yet their power is about the same as ours), instead they may have deliberately chose it as a default name they liked, or in order to confuse the rest of us!

When I have time, I'll check out a presend save of a few years back when we were still pacted to PEACE and PEACE already pacted to PUT. Then we can use the PEACE infiltrator information to check out how many bases PUT had back then.

I think that we should push a little deeper into PUT territory, then return after one turn of exploration to perhaps upgrade ready for the assault. The one thing worse than having too many troops is having too few.

You mean sailing a full 8 MPs back to the north first or a bit less? Would you follow the coast line west or east of Monitoring Station?

Btw, I just checked. Upgrading our laser cruiser to a 4-1-8 costs 60 credits. To a 4-3-8 90 credits.

[Maniac]

In response to the query about PUT bases, I have reuploaded the MY 2141 turn, IIRC the last turn we were pacted to PEACE and thus had access to their datalinks. Being pacted, we could also check part of the information they had about other factions. This is done by looking at the faction profile of a certain faction (using the commlink menu, right-clicking on a faction etc...), and then clicking on the PEACE faction icon in the box at the center bottom of the screen. That way we can derive PUT had nine bases in MY 2141, and fortunately not 20.