PEACE diplomatic exchanges

[Corellion]

I take it that means there are interesting conversations going on on the Pirates side?

It would be interesting to see what each side has been thinking throughout our entire relationship.

[Phenix]

Yes indeed,

I wonder if there were Pirates who actually ment the best for our faction, for our pact to last the entire game... we'll never know now war is uphand

[Googlie]

Originally posted by Corellion
I take it that means there are interesting conversations going on on the Pirates side?

Verrry interesting .......

btw, Cap'n Hobbes has been sighted at the helm of a PEACE vessel. Some of you may know him from other PBEMs. He's another seasoned vet that will add wise counsel to their deliberations

G.

[Drogue]

Yes, I've played against Hobbes. A worthy opponent, although a very righteous one. He doesn't like being played, even if he has no choice. DilithiumDad once asked for a payment he found most unfair, not adding up the fact that non-payment meant certain destruction. Illogical, but a good player non-the-less.

[Drogue]

Has anyone had a PM or email back from Flubber or Herc? I have emailed Herc and Flubber with this:

Dear Captain and Ambassador,

Did you received my last communique, sent by e-mail to Hercules and by PM to Flubber? I do not wish to pressure you, but we have not received a reply stating if you wish us to research Nonlinear Mathematics and gift it to you, to close the previous deal, as you stated you ideally wanted first. We are prepared to gift it, though we weren't before, due to our mistake that has inconvenienced you.

I have pre-accepted a 10ec gift in the diplomacy box. Please accept it with our apologies for the mix-up.

Yours,
Prime Function Drogue Beta-8

[Drogue]

Have received a PM back from Flubber:

I think we wish most of all to acquire HEC now . . . there are other sources of nonlinear maths available to us. As for the 10 ec I appreciate the gesture but it is small comfort for the fact that you folks will take another dozen years or so to repay an old tech debt

I guess we have to go for HEC first then in order to make a semblance of keeping to the deal, since we will not be ready for war in 2 turns. Unless we can rush a laser cruiser or two? IMHO the best option is now to research HEC, but don't trade, so we have some defense and PEACE doesn't, all the wqhile building laser cruisers. Then attack PEACE while researching Non Math.

What do others thinks?

[Maniac]

I would still go for NonlMath.

[Phenix]

I think Drogue's plan is the best we've got if Peace insists on HEC instead of NonMath...

because war be on us in no-time if we yet again we defy the Pirates ( ).

[Drogue]

Maniac: If we go for Non Math, then we will get war with about 10 turns left before we get Non-Math, with only 2 turns to make cruisers, and withour plasma armour.

If we go HEC first, we have about 14 turns of having cruisers, we have plasma armour and we have 10 turns to get Non Math (presuming that research remains every 12 turns, and it will take PEACE 2 turns to war from when they know the deal won't be fulfilled).

IMHO the second is far preferable.

[Maniac]

If we go for HEC, I would vote we forget about going to war all together.

Edit: Oh yeah, I think it's bull**** PEACE can get NonlMath elsewhere. Last time I checked we were the only human faction with ApplPhys, a prerequisite. So if you really want to go to war, you have to exploit the benefit of having a superior weapon (4) against PEACE's guns (1) as much and as soon as possible. In 24 years they will already have built up their defences.

[DeathByTheSword]

hmz....maniac are you sure about HEC?....if so i agree on start on nonlmath and working on our military

[Drogue]

I propose going to war in 16 years, not 24 and they won't have built up their defenses, since they will be expecting HEC from us. If we go to war in 4 years, we will have no time to build any ships, and will still only have laser weapons with 10 years to impact. If we go to war in 16 years, we will have plasma armour, 16 years to build up ships, and 10 years to impact.

I'm betting that us, knowing we are about to go to war, will be able to build up our military more in 16 years than PEACE, who think we are still friends, and will remain our friends until they expect us to transmit HEC. I don't think they will build many defenders, if any, until the get HEC, since they expect to be getting it in 14 years. Why build anything worse when they expect to have (3) armour in 14 years?

I think if we go for Non Math we will have a war with our (2) against their (1), without any defenses ourselves and with at most 1 ship to attack with.

If we go for HEC we will have war with our (2) against their (1), with the ability to make (3) armour and with ~3 ships to attack with. A much better position IMHO.

[Phenix]

See, Drogue's proposal is a much better option than going for NonMath asap...

It's unfortunate that they ask for HEC, but now we have to make the best out of it

[Maniac]

Hmm, ok then.

Oh yeah, I was mistaken in my previous post. This year PEACE has obtained both ApplPhys and IndBase.

[Phenix]

But because Peace is our perfect pact partner ,
they wouldn't ever trade with another faction, would they??

cough:sarcasm:cough