Prime Function's Office - Turnplay Discussion

[GeoModder]

Give me a signal when you come online. Just in case there are things not yet clear.

[Maniac]

AFAIK everything was clear.
Here's the presend turn:

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=3088_acdg-CyCon2157presend.zip

If I didn't make any mistake, or if there aren't any further suggestions or comments, I'll post the PEACE turn in the turn tracking thread in an hour or so.

Or an alternative, if you want a few hours with posting our turn, is that one of you presses "end turn" and posts the final turn in the general forum. As posted above, I won't be able to do so tomorrow.

[GeoModder]

Liar's Lair: Drone riots, a doctor is needed there!!!
Same in Zetaris, or are the RC's finished anyway before the drones can stop production?

There are 93 credits left in the bank.
Or does that show on our account till PUT has accepted the offer?

[Maniac]

Originally posted by GeoModder
Liar's Lair: Drone riots, a doctor is needed there!!!
Same in Zetaris, or are the RC's finished anyway before the drones can stop production?

Production is indeed dealt with before drone riots are checked.

There are 93 credits left in the bank.
Or does that show on our account till PUT has accepted the offer?

Yes, that's it.

[Maniac]

The final PUT presend is in the turn reports thread and here you can download the CC turn:

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=3088_acdg-CyCon2158.zip

[Maniac]

Sorry to tell you this only four days into the new government term, but if war erupts now between CPU and the Hive-Drones as seems to be the case, and buster can't be convinced to go for a solo victory, I'm strongly considering to become much less active - or totally inactive - in the ACDG. I guess you know my opinion that, since the Hive-Drones probably have over double the industrial capacity of us, we stand no chance against them both, and defeat is assured. If this was just a simple single player PBEM that didn't take much time and where I didn't have to discuss about all plans, I'd continue to the end. But in the ACDG having to discuss all the orders with especially Impaler and GeoModder takes lots and lots of time, and it isn't worth all that free time for me if the end result is obvious anyway.
So I have to ask, if war erupts between us and the Hive-Drones, is someone willing to replace me as Prime Function?

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Maniac
So I have to ask, if war erupts between us and the Hive-Drones, is someone willing to replace me as Prime Function?

It is always possible just to execute the orders given, and not participate in the discussions of how those orders come to be.

[Maniac]

Yeah, but it's kinda hard simply executing orders while thinking (rightly so or not - who's to say ) that one could do better due to being a more experienced SMAC player etcetera.

[Maniac]

Presend save is in the turn report thread. If I forgot something, please tell me in the next hour or so, as I then have to leave and thus post the turn in the turn tracking thread.
Oh yeah, in the current uploaded save I forgot to transmot our cash to PUT, but that's already fixed.

[Drogue]

Due to time contraints, I doubt I'd be able to take over as Prime Function. However the Hive and Drones are not that close, seemingly. We have a chance.

[Nubclear]

Nevermind...I thought I was in the general forum turn tracking thread.
Bah!

[Maniac]

Just posting here to say that my last post in the turn report thread has been updated with CyCon turnplay info.

[GeoModder]

Originally posted by Maniac
So I have to ask, if war erupts between us and the Hive-Drones, is someone willing to replace me as Prime Function?

Very well, Maniac. If you decide to lay down your post, I take it over 'till elections can be held.

/me thinks: What I'm I doing now??

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Impaler[WrG]
WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON HERE!!

I see coutless changes to my Former orders here, almost nothing in the Central Trantor area is as I posted? I can understand some of the build changes that were made for Military Production (Comand Centers, Plasma Garrison ect ect) but for Gods sake people this is over the line to simply change all the former orders I had posted without even raising any objections to them on the forum or consulting me. If all my work is going to simply be ignored I dont see why I am going to waste my precious time on this game. Their had better be a DAMN GOOD explination for this!

GeoModder visited me Sunday, and we discussed many things on what to do in the turn. Since you and the two of us are mostly the only ones who discuss on Internal Affairs matters, I guess a majority would agree to what Geo and I agreed on to do.

However I have to admit that I've grown increasingly tired with discussing former, crawler, worker and civil production orders. For this and many other reasons I think it's best I resign as Prime Function. Fortunately GeoModder has offered to take over the turnplay duties until new elections are held, so this will pose no problem in the short run.

[Impaler[WrG]]

I am sad to hear this Maniac your a core member of our team and I think we realy need you to be active. I also think your throwing in the towel too early. Atleast wait untill we are infact involved in and lossing wars with the Hive and Drones, for all we know they many not infact attack us.

As for the Internal Affairs orders, I dont think growing tired of discussion is a valid excuse for simply over-riding me because GeoModder agreed with you. If the situation was reversed and Me and You desided to change GeoModders Military orders without even having raised any objections on the forum or consulted any other members of the team then He would have every right to be mad.

I know that you and Geo had been doing Internal Affairs in my absesn and likly had plans of your own that you wanted to complete, if you had debated them I might have agreed to most of it too. You both seemed realy pleased when I returned to do the job, now it seems that you will follow my IA orders only so far as they agree with what you have already desided to do which is a total breakdown of our democracy and not a situation I will work under.