Prime Function's Office - Turnplay Discussion

[Corellion]

No, I wasn't saying anything like that. I was implying that somebody needs to get a hold of you (and I don't know how, other than PMing).

[Maniac]

Drogue, seeing that we have a complicated diplomatic situation with PEACE, and that we perhaps need to decide our strategy and research choice for the next few decades or so in the next turn (if we accept Doc:Ini), may I suggest you wait a bit with playing the turn?

[Drogue]

Of course. I was thinking it was needed this turn anyway. However if we wait too long PEACE will think we are trying to break the deal IMHO. If we go relatively quickly, we can claim not to have read the PM and so did not know they expected anything back from the Doc Ini trade, we thought it was a gift

[Corellion]

Err... somehow I don't think they'll believe that.

[Drogue]

Why not? If they PM DBTS who we have already said is not that active, it is quite easy that we could play the turn without him having read and forwarded the message, since they did not send it to me. Therefore we saw that there, and thought we should accept it. We did not know there were conditions attached.

This will not save the pact, but will have 2 effects:
1) It may delay war by 1 or 2 turns while we bicker about it.
2) Flubber said he would leave any PBEM that people didn't stick to the rules with. Googlie will tell them, as he told us, if asked, that what we did was not against the rules, but would not be able to give them any more details, as that would give them info they shouldn't have. They will think because we didn't read it it was not against the rules, whereas it is actually because it is quite simply not against the rules. It may stop Flubber and others leaving, while helping our other diplomacy. It is quite an easy mistake to make, and others may well believe it, as I think PEACE may cause quite a stir if we do this, as they will feel they've been cheated. It is unsportsmanlike, but not against the rules.

[Corellion]

I don't think it's unsportsmanlike.

And I didn't realise they had only sent it to DBTS. Wonderful! Having him appointed External Affairs Function is quite possibly the smartest move we've made!

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Corellion
Having him appointed External Affairs Function is quite possibly the smartest move we've made!

[Corellion]

In order to make this plausible, we're going to have to at least pretent we made some sort of attempt to contact them before the 48 hours was up. How can we make a plausible attempt without them being able to respond in time?

[Maniac]

Anyway, I as Second Functon replacing "the absent External Affairs Function" can ask PEACE why they have offered us Doc:Ini, and an hour later Drogue can post the turn, not knowing I just contacted Flubber...

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Corellion
How can we make a plausible attempt without them being able to respond in time?

We don't. They know we're out for ourselves first, just like them. We would pass up an opportunity, and we would presume it was a gift from our pactmates, since they wanted to be paid the HEC back quicker. However the change to Non Math will be harder to explain. We only need about 2 turns until we get Non Math, and then 2 until we get our first impact cruiser.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Maniac


Anyway, I as Second Functon replacing "the absent External Affairs Function" can ask PEACE why they have offered us Doc:Ini, and an hour later Drogue can post the turn, not knowing I just contacted Flubber...

We're so evil!

[Drogue]

So do I wait on playing, or do I play as quickly as possible so it seems like DBTS didn't tell us? The turn is now over 24 hours old, so may be coming to us soon.

Flubber is in Canada right? When is he not online? Maniac needs to send the PM when Flubber won't be online, and then an hour or two later I post the turn, so they cannot reply in between, yet we can say "we couldn't wait any longer for your reply, so decided to play". We've told them DBTS is inactive, so could easily have not told us, and they only PMed him, so we're safe there. You all know I sometimes play the email too hastily ( ) and don't like stopping mid-turn to have to ask things, so I would presume that some sort of deal was reached, which was why they gifted that. It's all plausible

[Corellion]

Flubber lives in Calgary (where I lived up until a month ago). Thus, he will probably be offline between 1AM and 6AM MST (I'm playing it safe here). That would be between 8AM and 1PM GMT.

[Maniac]

Drogue, you forgot to execute my order to send the Logic Loop scout patrol to Zetaris. Zetaris is growing in five turns and the Zetarian crawler production is only done in four turns, so it' important we get a temporary garrison down there asap. Since Logic Loop is currently guarded by the Ogre, sending the LL scout patrol seems best.

[DeathByTheSword]

hmz...PEACE wont like ME after this ...