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**Method** · August 31, 2002, 22:24

adam? have you been discussing anything with your party? if you have made a decision on anything, drop by my office. normally i'd say visit maniac's office in the P4 building since he is party leader, but my Director of Research office is nicer, because it was paid for by the government

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**GeneralTacticus** · September 1, 2002, 01:02

He certainly hasn't discussed anything with me.

**FlameFlash** · September 1, 2002, 11:51

TKG, GT... It's not just Adam's choice if we make any kind of change, however I'm for just waiting and watching... the P4 is also persuing this point undoubtably since it would hurt CDC and more importantly CCCP (from a P4 veiw) if we were to drop out of the caolition.

**Method** · September 1, 2002, 12:21

Originally posted by FlameFlash
TKG, GT... It's not just Adam's choice if we make any kind of change, however I'm for just waiting and watching... the P4 is also persuing this point undoubtably since it would hurt CDC and more importantly CCCP (from a P4 veiw) if we were to drop out of the caolition.

no, i asked because adam is party leader and i was wondering if he had been in contact with you through PMs or otherwise. my goal is not specifically to hurt the CCCP or CDC, its just that right now P4 has no friends (

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**FlameFlash** · September 1, 2002, 13:01

Oh, I know you're goal isn't to hurt the CCCP, TKG... but there is a member of the P4 that stands out in my mind that does...

At any rate, Adam said repeatedly that the EDP doesn't have a party leader, all three members make up the governing body of the party, so if a majority wants a certain thing we'll generally go with it... heck, if one member wants a certain thing, we'll generally go with it (such as GT's more militaristic stance.)

We don't mind being freinds with the P4... but don't understand why that would require us to actually drop out of the CDC coalition... when there are common things the EDP and P4 agree on, why can't we just merge then?

**Method** · September 1, 2002, 13:07

Originally posted by FlameFlash
Oh, I know you're goal isn't to hurt the CCCP, TKG... but there is a member of the P4 that stands out in my mind that does...

well, i've had just about enough of that certain party member myself...

Originally posted by FlameFlash
We don't mind being freinds with the P4... but don't understand why that would require us to actually drop out of the CDC coalition... when there are common things the EDP and P4 agree on, why can't we just merge then?

this isn't my decision to make...discussion is necessary.

**FlameFlash** · September 1, 2002, 13:17

when I say merge I mean simply vote together... as it stands who knows who is voting just party or coalition views?

I know I'm not. If there's a point when I agree with a P4 candidate more than CDC or EDP I'll vote P4... I don't yellow-dog vote... ever.

**Method** · September 1, 2002, 13:26

Originally posted by FlameFlash
when I say merge I mean simply vote together... as it stands who knows who is voting just party or coalition views?

I know I'm not. If there's a point when I agree with a P4 candidate more than CDC or EDP I'll vote P4... I don't yellow-dog vote... ever.

why don't we merge entirely? (but out of CDC) then we could combat DBTS's idea for PBs

**FlameFlash** · September 1, 2002, 13:41

heh... well, TKG, Ind being some kind of EDP/P4 laison, if that's what you're talking about. The whole official merge thing would have to be taken to an internal vote on both sides.

**Method** · September 1, 2002, 13:56

i agree.

**AdamTG02** · September 1, 2002, 14:11

What's been discussed so far sounds good.

I haven't initiated any votes becuase an earlier party vote endorsed the concept of working together on issues of agreement without necessarily supporting every position of the other party. So, those are the terms on which I think we can work together with the P4.

As FlameFlash and GT say, a decision of the majority of the members is a decision of the party. I'm not intrinsic to that process, although I do hope that my opinion carries some weight.

Your offer of a merging is interesting, TKG, but I think in the long run we can accomplish more by retaining our seperate identitites. That way we can work together with ACE on colony pods, with CDC on social engineering, and with P4 on supporting research, without distancing ourselves from either party. We are a part of the CDC now, but that coalition is a lot looser than a merge would be. In the main, I think the EDP has several ideas of its own that I think we can most effectively advocate as our own party.

I'm certainly open to discussion on the matter, though.

**FlameFlash** · September 1, 2002, 14:17

*applauds Adam*

Edit: how does one emote here? I've seen it done before..

**Method** · September 1, 2002, 14:17

well, maybe things will change once the game begins. which specific P4 policies do you disagree with?

**FlameFlash** · September 1, 2002, 14:24

Well, I know I agree with you TKG, with the disagreement of PBs... has there been any change in P4 policy? I didn't read any, and I went through all 14 pages of your party's thread now...

**Method** · September 1, 2002, 14:28

no, the rest of P4, so far as i know, still supports building a PB. i don't agree with it, but i don't quit the party because of it. when it comes time to vote on it, just vote "no" along with everyone else, and it'll fail

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