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  • #16
    The Empath Guild has been disabled (It can be a game-breaker in a PBEM format)
    A question out of curiosity: Would the Angels perform better if you gave them the Empath Guild from the start? Or would that just make them Target nr. 1 for all human players?
    Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
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    • #17
      I think your second sentence is an answer to your first one, Maniac. Giving the EG to an AI faction is the same thing as giving it to the human player who has the luck of ending up closest to that faction.
      "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
      "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Maniac
        A question out of curiosity: Would the Angels perform better if you gave them the Empath Guild from the start? Or would that just make them Target nr. 1 for all human players?
        3 reasons why not

        1:- as described by moomin - they just become the #1 target, with advantage to her immediate neighbors
        2:- gives the Angels automatic infiltration on everyone, with the resulting techshare implications - vastly overpowering
        3:- Roze calls a Council meeting first turn (remember she and Miriam have their 3 bases established) thus giving commlinks to all players

        Thus I decided to just disable it - so you'll need to probe for information on other factions and work for voting majority through population growth

        G.

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        • #19
          Any news regarding the private forums?
          You can only curse me to eternal damnation for so long!

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          • #20
            no, not yet. maybe if we pester markos enough he'll go faster?




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            • #21
              Please Mr Markos. The Pirates need you.
              On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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              • #22
                ...and things became rather rapidly elite again. I don't feel experienced enough to participate in smaller team games.

                /me sighs

                Well, the last game was good. Good luck interesting non-veterans in this idea.
                Consul.

                Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                • #23
                  I'm a non-veteran (I've never done PBEM before ) and I'm interesting. But I agree, it will be hard interesting n00bs in this. We can try though, it's easier than a normal PBEM IMHO.
                  Smile
                  For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                  But he would think of something

                  "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                  • #24
                    Is there sufficient interest for a regular Democracy game, just with self-imposed limitations, eg no Secret Projects to be built?

                    Why was the decision for this style of game anyway? There's plenty of challenge left that we haven't explored with one game. This just doesn't sound as enticing to me any more.
                    Consul.

                    Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                    • #25
                      Well, we voted. I guess we thought it was different, had more variety, and would be good for those who participated inthe last one, but would get bored with another one. Personally, I don't like self-imposed limitations. However if you can get a CMN to boost the AI, a single player would be good.
                      Smile
                      For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                      But he would think of something

                      "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                      • #26
                        There's also the fact that political intrigue is already more exciting - it is more interesting playing your ideology against those of others.
                        "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
                        "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
                          ...and things became rather rapidly elite again. I don't feel experienced enough to participate in smaller team games.

                          * MrWhereItsAt sighs

                          Well, the last game was good. Good luck interesting non-veterans in this idea.
                          I'm a relatively inexperienced non-veteran as well. I'm using this DG as an excellent opportunity to learn more about the game and PBEM in general.

                          I think it's worth pointing out that you can get more from a Democracy Game than just post count.
                          "We are living in the future, I'll tell you how I know, I read it in the paper, Fifteen years ago" - John Prine

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                          • #28
                            mhh spam uhhh I mean Posts *drool*
                            Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Static Universe

                              I think it's worth pointing out that you can get more from a Democracy Game than just post count.
                              Oh I know all of this, I was heavily involved at times for the last game. What was fantastic for me was being a Minister where there were so many others to point out mistakes or new strategies to try that I didn't know about. This allowed me (and others, I imagine) to learn the intricacies of the game, a part at a time, with a safety net. With small teams like this, there will not be the safety net, and the expertise of so many will not be available.

                              I dunno, it just seems like this format assumes you know far more about the game than I garnered from my few years of on-off playing and one Single player game. I'd like to learn more SMAC and SMAX, just that I don't see this as being anything but frustrating and rather daunting, more so than where we are all presenting a united front.
                              Consul.

                              Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                              • #30
                                There's no reason you can't learn from being defeated by a better tactic used by another team. This shouldn't be frustrating at all. Every team has at least two people who know thier way around the game.

                                It would be nice to have you involved though MWIA. Perhaps you could have a role like Trip's in the current PtWDG. You could be the official monitor of all 5 factions and keeper of the fairplayness. Someones should probably do it, someone who can be trusted...

                                -Jam
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