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Speeding up the early game is a good thing IMO, but I worry about stuff like this: (talking about Workers becoming Builders with "charges")
"if it takes 8 or 10 turns for someone to finish something, it's just like too hard to get that planning right"
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When she said that, it bothered me as wellOriginally posted by Aeson View Post"if it takes 8 or 10 turns for someone to finish something, it's just like too hard to get that planning right"
And watching the fights occur in the city radius (one unit vs one unit) probably means that pillaging will be a serious problems considering how they claim barbs will be nastier.
However, the comment about how barbarian horse archers are new surprised me since there were barbarian horse archers in Civ IV.Keep on Civin'
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Barbarian horse archers are "new" in the sense that they're a ranged unit, Civ5-style. So the Civ4 ones aren't that similar.
Pillaging definitely looks to be a big issue. When they show the pillaged districts around the city, it means those buildings are also pillaged, so I would guess a whole range of buildings can be rendered useless by pillaging.Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
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OK... thanks, that explains it. It's been so long since I've played any Civ V, but still playing a ton of Civ IV with the KMod.Originally posted by Solver View PostBarbarian horse archers are "new" in the sense that they're a ranged unit, Civ5-style. So the Civ4 ones aren't that similar.
That it does... defending cities looks like it will be a true pain in the ass.Pillaging definitely looks to be a big issue. When they show the pillaged districts around the city, it means those buildings are also pillaged, so I would guess a whole range of buildings can be rendered useless by pillaging.
Oh... and it's great having Civ discussions with you again Solver
Keep on Civin'
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Going by that gameplay footage, it seems like you want to defend the approaches to your city, and if you're forced to defend the city itself, then you're already losing. Which I like - historically, being besieged had a high cost even if the siege was ultimately won by the defenders.Originally posted by Ming View PostThat it does... defending cities looks like it will be a true pain in the ass.
Got to make up for the 3 months of disappeared posts site-wide somehowOh... and it's great having Civ discussions with you again Solver
Great to see the same old crowd still discussing!
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Roads are built by establishing trade routes, not explicitly by units. Although there are "military engineers" or something later that can build roads as well.Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
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Unless there is some way tp recover several centuries worth of building quickly then that sounds like a game breaking design flaw to me.Originally posted by Solver View PostBarbarian horse archers are "new" in the sense that they're a ranged unit, Civ5-style. So the Civ4 ones aren't that similar.
Pillaging definitely looks to be a big issue. When they show the pillaged districts around the city, it means those buildings are also pillaged, so I would guess a whole range of buildings can be rendered useless by pillaging.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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That idea is not bad. Many of their other ideas I am not a big fan of but that one sounds decent.Originally posted by Solver View PostRoads are built by establishing trade routes, not explicitly by units. Although there are "military engineers" or something later that can build roads as well.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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I can't remember the details, but I saw a video in which the designers are asked about pillaging and they say that you're not actually destroying the improvements through pillaging, just hampering them in some way. Maybe it just needs to be cleaned up the way pollution used to get cleaned up by Engineers?Originally posted by Dinner View PostUnless there is some way tp recover several centuries worth of building quickly then that sounds like a game breaking design flaw to me.
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It's not difficult to imagine systems allowing just that. Possibly repair via Builder or Engineer units, or possibly via city production itself, except that rebuilding a building is far cheaper than building a new one.Originally posted by Dinner View PostUnless there is some way tp recover several centuries worth of building quickly then that sounds like a game breaking design flaw to me.Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
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