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**MacUser** · December 17, 2000, 18:21

WOW! Big news! Impressive MP thread! Based on the following line in the Thread: Anyways, I got tinkering about in the .EXE file, and figured out that if you add "Simultaneous=1" to the CIV.INI in your \WINDOWS directory, I'm going to do some serious directory diving with ResEdit and Code Warrior Lite. I ought to at least be able to render my game unusable!

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Be what you is and not what you is not. Folks who do that are the happiest lot!
- Mr. Wizard the Lizard,

**MacUser** · December 17, 2000, 19:32

Found "Simultaneous" in the Civilization II Gold 1.1 application file using Word, but can't figure out how to edit it. Code Warrior Lite won't open it. I am obviously NOT a programmer! I'll wager some smart Mac coder out there knows the answer! Well, I'm off to play "Pajama Sam 2" with my little Sam!

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Be what you is and not what you is not. Folks who do that are the happiest lot!
- Mr. Wizard the Lizard,

**MacUser** · December 18, 2000, 09:46

Time to write Brian Neese....

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Be what you is and not what you is not. Folks who do that are the happiest lot!
- Mr. Wizard the Lizard,

**MacUser** · December 22, 2000, 17:22

Letter from Brian Nesse to MacUser, received on 21-Dec-00.

Yes, I'm still alive, but I did leave MacSoft on March 31st. Since then I
have been working on improving the Macintosh Communicator 4.7x browser for
Netscape.

I do vaguely recall the simultaneous switch. I can't remember if I turned it
on or not. For that matter, I'm not even sure where I saw it... It was in
one of the game structures somewhere I think. I remember looking at it for a
while and then deciding to move on... I don't remember why.

The real reason I'm contacting you however (yes, I was going to email you
even before I saw your post) is regarding the enclosed application. It's a
little something I've been puttering with in my spare time. I recently
decided that it was time to finish it up before I went on Christmas vacation
(honestly I knew I wouldn't have any time to work on it in early 2001 due to
other obligations, but the Christmas story sounds good .

I hope you find this little tool somewhat useful (I think you might).

Merry Christmas, and have a great holiday season.

-Brian
--
Brian S. Nesse
Principal Software Engineer
Netscape Communications Corp.

Windows 95: n.
32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8
bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor,
written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition.

The following is Brian's reply to my reply. I have posted it because he commented a bit more about the Simultaneous Switch, plus Enquiring Minds want to know! My writing is in italics; let me know if it it too confusing.

HEY!!! Good to hear from you! Glad you're alive! Since you surf the ACS
Forums, you are probably up on some of the news of the ACS Mac users,
however, unless you visit the Off Topic Forum, you would not have heard
where Finbar is spending his Christmas holiday: ITALY! Yes, one of our
favorite Aussies is off to wine and dine his way across the Italian country
side. Perhaps he'll bring back some culture to share with some of the Oz
Trolls (say Alexander's Horse, for example )

I didn't know there was an off topic forum Wow, Italy huh? That ought to
be some Christmas vacation.

I'm somewhat disappointed that you couldn't help with a hack for the
simultaneous turns switch, but I'm sure it was left off for a good reason.
If, however, something comes to mind, could you please drop us a line or
post to the ACS Mac Forum?

If you read my message carefully, you'll note that I didn't actually say I
couldn't help I just haven't currently volunteered to do so . As I
noted, the demands on my time are soon to me somewhat intense.

Speaking of the Forum, would you mind if I posted your letter or could you
post a reply regarding the simultaneous turns switch? Actually, you wouldn't
happen to be hiding behind an ACS Screen Name would you? If so you need to> come out and play! We won't bug you too much! (well, maybe Horse will...)

You can post the letter if you like. I have not signed on to the ACS forums
in other than a guest capacity... I seem to recall they demanded an email
address and I wasn't sure I really wanted to open myself to that sort of
abuse just yet .

Thanks for the Scenario Converter! I'll give it a whirl and post it on the
ACS Mac page (I REALLY need to make time to work on that!). It seems that
Scenario creation/conversion is becoming the real use for the Mac Pages.

Yeah, I saw all the posts and conversion talk. That's what go me started
thinking about this in the first place.

Well, it's time to head to work. Good luck with your current job at
Netscape; I'll give Netscape another whirl for solidarity!

No obligations. I understand that people like IE, I just happen to like 4.x
and was offered the opportunity to help improve it.

-Brian

Well, I suffered a giga-crash on the ol' Hard Drive this morning and have spent part of my day doing a clean install and downloading the 8.6 update and generally trying to make things work again. Once I have stuff working I'll post Brian's Scenario Conversion utility. And Brian, if you see this, get Netscape to support the scroll-wheel on my MS IntelliMouse Explorer and then I'll think about switching for good!

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**Epik** · December 22, 2000, 20:55

A bit of good news... while I still do not know how to flip the simultaneous switch for Mac Os... I was able to join a game today and play a simultaneous turn game. Apparently only the host has to flip the switch.

The game does speed up a lot, too much in my opinion. There is not much time to chat or negotiate with other players. I suppose part of the problem with this was the fact that the host insisted on setting the timer at 2 minute.

The message boxes (Your Move, Waiting on others to complete move or production turns, etc) become annoying because they pop up so frequently.

I cannot be certain, because things went by so quickly, but I think I missed some unit movements when I tried to check my cities during the movement phase.

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