LEADERHEAD: LOTR Orc *animated*

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

The leader of the Dwarves was Dain Ironfoot! The leader of the High Elves should be Elrond, and the leader of the Silvan Elves should be Galadrial or Tharanduil (Thranduil?), not Celeborn because, as was pointed out, Galadrial "wore the pants" .
If you were to have the hobbits as a "power" then the leader should be a Took-i.e. the Thain!
The ruler of Gondor should be Aragorn or Denthor II, depending on what you were looking for in terms of "feel", so to speak!

Yours,
The_Aussie_Lurker.

[MoonWolf]

Galadriel...

If someone is going to make a LOTR-scenario, I might be helpful... I'm no great expert myself, but I know people who know a lot.

[=DrJambo=]

Just to clarify a few things:

Galadriel is a Noldor or "High" Elf and daughter of Finarfin and Earwen. Elrond is a Peredhil or "Half-Elf" being the son of Earendil (son of Dior who was son of Thengel and Melian) and Elwing (daughter of Tuor and Idril, decendent of Turgon).

So while Galadriel is pure Noldor, Elrond is part Noldor (Idril/Turgon), part Silvan (Thengel), part Maia (Melian) and part Man (Tuor). They are equally important characters.

Thranduil is the leader of the Silvan Elves or "Wood" Elves.

[Don Homer]

If you're doing a Lord of the Rings scenario, I would have Aragorn as a unit, not a ruler. Same with Legolas and all the other fellowship-ers.

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

That's exactly my point Don Homer. If you're only after a war-game feel for the LOTR scenario, then I'd probably make Aragorn a leader but, if you want to do the actual quest as well, then I'd have ALL the fellowship as seperate units!
I would also have certain fellowship members, like Aragorn, Gandalf and Frodo, have the ability to group units, like an army, to represent their "Leadership" abilities!
Just as a side note, I think that places like the Barrow Downs, Erech and Tom Bombadils house could be represented as forts or Airbases, with Tom Bombadil, the Wights and the Ghosts of Erech being short ranged "air units". What do you reckon?

Anyway, just a few thoughts. It'd be MUCH better if we had an events language, though!

Yours,
The_Aussie_Lurker.

[sween32]

if you want Galedriel as your Elf leader then use Queen Elizabeth. She'll do fine. I'm making Legolas because the model is already made and it can also be used for scenarios that are not Lord of the Rings.

[player1]

Hmph...

Legolas...

Leader...

[sween32]

if you don't like it then don't use it. or make your own.

[Switch]

I'm sorry sween, but with that attitude you'll have every LotR nut hating you....using such great talent for a minor character.

And thank you for the names that slipped my mind, horseman and lurker.

[sween32]

well they shouldn't take it so seriously anyways. the pickiness is extremely tiring. he is a formable leader, mostly because he is the only elf the common person remembers from LOTR. the common person doesn't know who Augustus was, so Caeser is the the leader of Rome. caeser to rome, joan of arc to france, legolas to the elves. there really is no difference. i just won't post him here. no loss to me. and i don't see anything wrong with what i said before; we could use more leaderhead makers. would it help if i use a little smilie?

[NeOmega]

Ok... so he doesn't look like Legolas... all the better to be the "king of the elves"... so he does look like legolas....


hmmm what am I saying... to both the elven leaderhead and the orc leaderhead that isn't "ugly" or "green" or "heavily jawboned set" enough.... they will work 1000x better than trying to use Ghengis Kahn leaderhead as an orc and alexander the great's leaderhead as that of the high elves.

BTW.... I think that orc is the best leaderhead I have seen so far..... Good job Sween

I prefer generic mythical figures myself... that way it is easier to bypass the petty criticism... fact is all of tolkien's characters are fictional, so the leaderheads are only attempts at matching the current movie's portrayal.

[sween32]

Originally posted by NeOmega
hmmm what am I saying... to both the elven leaderhead and the orc leaderhead that isn't ugly or green or heavily jawboned set enough.... they will work 1000x better than trying to use Ghengis Kahn leaderhead as an orc and alexander the greatr's leaderhead as that of the high elves.

exactly my thoughts. and i made the orc that way because it's an average orc. not a urak-hai or whatever they are. it's supposed to be a little weasley looking things.

Originally posted by NeOmega
BTW.... I think that orc is the best leaderhead I have seen so far..... Good job Sween

Thank you, neomega. i was never going to post on Apolyton ever again but thought "hey, why not?", and you just made posting this leaderhead worth the trouble.

[Horseman 4.5]

Sween - don't let a friendly discussion of the succession crisis of the elves get in the way of doing what you do. I apologize if my suggesting Galadriel as a more appropriate Elven leader offended you - I was just speaking in LotR accuracy terms. The orc leaderhead is damned good. And I hope we can get to see more of your stuff because I sure as hell couldn't hope to beat your efforts

[Yurt]

Hey, don't get offended. Frankly I don't care which elf you choose to make, I was just offering my opinion.

edit- I logged in as Don Homer accidently last time, so that was me.

[Switch]

Hate to sound like a parrot, but...I wasn't condemning you either. I generally don't play mods, I was just commenting on a general LotR basis. That orc looks incredible, even better quality than the leaderheads that Firaxis made . Heck, that things uglier than Genghis Khan!