Wanted: 256x256 mostly land maps!

[Travathian]

I'm looking for some really big maps with lots of land. I want to play with 8-16 civs and let everyone have room to almost expand at will.

Or does anyone know how to hack Civ3 so that I can custom size the map like you can in SMAC for a random map.

[pauli]

does anyone know how to hack Civ3 so that I can custom size the map like you can in SMAC for a random map.

that's my question exactly! i was about to ask over in general, cause i wasn't sure where to put it. 180x180 is way too friggin small. i need at least 256x256 to be comfortable...

[Qienchi]

Have you tried the real world map =) ?

It's pretty darn big, and even in the 1800s i can still find empty patches of land

[pauli]

earth(huge) is still only 180x180 :/

besides, i've always found earth to be a really irritating for civ games

[Elucidus]

Why not go into the civ3mod.bic (after boacking it up of course) and change the world sizes, science rate and corruption accordingly?

[pauli]

because... i had no idea you could do that

why does the tech rate need to change? is there a concise link i should read about this?

what values would you recommend for the following map sizes:

80x125 (cause that's how i always played civ2 )
100x200
128x256
192x256
256x256

and is there a way to change the max to something beyond 256x256?

[Badtz Maru]

You may want to change the tech rate on bigger maps because otherwise you will reach the end of the tech tree rather quickly - when you have 50 or more cities early on, you will be getting new techs every 4 turns even with the research turned down if the tech rate is too low.

[pauli]

so, raising the tech rate slows down research?

what about corruption and civ spacing?

[Elucidus]

Here are my suggestions, I basically increased the map size for all maps. Note, I increased max cities by 25% overall. This has worked pretty well so far.


Tiny is 80x80; distance 10; max cities 15; tech rate 100
Small is 100x100; distance 12; max cities 20; tech rate 120
Standard is 140x140; distance 16; max cities 30; tech rate 160
Large is 180x180; distance 20; max cities 40; tech rate 200
Huge is 255x255; distance 25; max cities 52; tech rate 240


EDIT: Oh yeah I would also increase the city size to 7 or 8 (up from 6) and 14 or 16 (up from 12). I think the best mix is probably 7/14.

[pauli]

w00t! it worked thanks for the help!

[Elucidus]

No problem I hope you enjoy it. Although if you have any problems or recommendations let me know.

[Travathian]

Duh, now I feel stupid for even asking, I should have known better.

I just got so used to .txt files and being able to just browse thru them and change things with ease, I never thought to just change the core Civ3 file with the editor!