Wonder Guide

[Krill]

I really don't want to read ALL of the posts on this one issue, so if I repeat something I am sorry.

If you checked when this thread was originally started, PTW had not come out. It is over two years old.

I have to say this is an EXCELLENT wonder, unlike what many think. Here's my reasoning: it does NOT grant you the weakest nor the 'optional' wonders you haven't researched, it DOES give you whatever you are currently researching.

That was changed pre-PTW.

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by senorFrito
Once you have nabbed the two extra techs, set your research back to as high as needed, and continue researching the tech you were origianlly. There is no point in nabbing the tech you were origionally researching b/c you already have science points allocated to it.

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that when you set research to zero for a full turn or change techs, you lose all the beakers that had accumulated up to date on your current research project and must start again.

[Krill]

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that when you set research to zero for a full turn or change techs, you lose all the beakers that had accumulated up to date on your current research project and must start again.

Yes, you lose all of the research if you end the turn when you select a different tech, and No, you don't lose the research if you research @ 0%

[Aqualung71]

You learn something new every day here, don't you. Thanks Krill.

In any case, senorFrito's strategy is non-optimal since by changing techs right before ToE then swapping back you will lose all the beakers up to that point. In such cases, I usually set my research to zero as soon as I know that I won't be able to squeeze another tech in before I get ToE completed, which usually gives about 6 turns of fantastic cashflow.

[Dominae]

Originally posted by Aqualung71
In any case, senorFrito's strategy is non-optimal since by changing techs right before ToE then swapping back you will lose all the beakers up to that point. In such cases, I usually set my research to zero as soon as I know that I won't be able to squeeze another tech in before I get ToE completed, which usually gives about 6 turns of fantastic cashflow.

In non-tight races for the Theory of Evolution you could also slow down your production on the Wonder in order to research another tech before its completion. This puts you even further ahead in the tech race because the ones you get for free will typically cost more (having researched the prerequisite the hard way).

[Mr Justice]

i useually time the building of TOE so that i complete reaserching a Tech the turn before i compete TOE. its easy enough to reduce the production by irrigating mined grass tiles and not working on hills.

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by Dominae

In non-tight races for the Theory of Evolution you could also slow down your production on the Wonder in order to research another tech before its completion. This puts you even further ahead in the tech race because the ones you get for free will typically cost more (having researched the prerequisite the hard way).

Absolutely. Yes, that's the other alternative.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Smiley
Unless for some reason you really need Democracy, maybe in a large empire.

hi ,

democraZy is the gov when it comes to high production and money , ..... the best to control your civ and to go to war with , ....

have a nice day

[charliechizel]

TOE

for the theory of evolution, you can actually time it so you finish one tech the same turn as finishing the wonder. The tech will finish first, then after the wonder you get 2 totally free techs without slowing down. I was sketched the first time i tried this but believe me, I do it every time now. Just be sure the turn before that none of your cities are going to go into anarchy, which could slow down the tech and waste a lot of reserach.

[CyberChrist]

As a Seafaring player I often go for a super science city with Colossus, Copernicus, Newtons and Shakespears(remember Shakespears allow for 13+ size cities before Hospitals come around - in Conquest anyway).

Even with an empire of 20+ cities it often generates 1/3 the science of my entire civ (especially if I get lucky and start on rivers and/or get a few trade resources in range as well).

While there are some free techs hidden in the Great Library it tends to make you shy away from Education asap. This means getting Universities later which in turn actually means getting later techs a bit slower.

In the end it all depends on what type of game you play; world size, world shape, start position, number of opponents, difficulty level, your play style(warmonger, builder or something in between) and last but not least playing multiplayer changes everything (ie. I almost never go for super science city in multiplayer).