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Originally posted by Mr. Llera
It is just inexcusable to have civilizations like the Aztecs, Iroquois, japanese, greeks, and yes, i'll say it even the Americans, but not the Spanish. Before the patriotic USA guys go berserk, let me just say why the Americans because, first off, while i never heard anyone say this, Americans are truly a fishy "civilization" i mean, it was only 100-150 years ago when the United States could even be considered a world power and Americans are really just a mish mosh of other peoples and cultures, even the "native " americans probably came from asia.
It is just inexcusable to have civilizations like the Aztecs, Iroquois, japanese, greeks, and yes, i'll say it even the Americans, but not the Spanish. Before the patriotic USA guys go berserk, let me just say why the Americans because, first off, while i never heard anyone say this, Americans are truly a fishy "civilization" i mean, it was only 100-150 years ago when the United States could even be considered a world power and Americans are really just a mish mosh of other peoples and cultures, even the "native " americans probably came from asia.
We've had these debates ad naseum. The civilization one-upmanship is really getting obnoxious. Firaxis went with the Aztecs for a few reasons:
1) they're traditional, as they've been in since Civ I
2) They are a unique culture.
3) They wanted more than just Eurasian civs.
What fun would have been to only include Eurasian civilizations? What kind of bull**** Eurocentrism is that? Remember, this game is about ALTERNATE history, and being FUN, so the Aztecs are perfectly fine for it.
We already had several worthy Euro civs, there just wasn't room this time for the Spanish. They're coming in the expansion, so just pipe down.
Oh, and the Greeks contributed far more to modern civilization around the world than the Spanish did. That's not putting them down, but Greek cultural achievement still shapes the modern worldview. Your assertion they aren't important is laughably ignorant.
Read a history book.
what about historical scenes? 
I agree on Phillip II, as a matter of fact he's one of the leaderheads in the batch I'm working on now....
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