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  • #31
    Yes, it's an exploit, but It's not on the banned list of exploits at Civ Fanatics for Games of the Month.

    Plus this exploit wouldn't work if the AI didn't have complete knowelge of previously explored tiles.

    Originally posted by vmxa1
    Be warned that use of undefended cities to thwart the AI is an expoit and should not be used.

    It is much easier to learn to build a better empire.
    1st C3DG Term 7 Science Advisor 1st C3DG Term 8 Domestic Minister
    Templar Science Minister
    AI: I sure wish Jon would hurry up and complete his turn, he's been at it for over 1,200,000 milliseconds now.

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    • #32
      I personally do not object to its use, I just never have had it come up )deliberately). I merely wanted to alert them to the idea that it is a bit of an exploit.

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      • #33
        Location Location Location

        C3C has really made it hard if you start in a bad location. Thanks for all the tips. I might just try to get a "little" better so Monarch remains fun

        Anyways, I've made it to the end of the industrial age.
        When coal came up it was in Spain's, but within 3 squares of my territory, a new town right on my boarder and pop, I had coal. Spain didn't mind, for, as large as their territory is, they haven't been researching very fast.

        Of course I didn't get rubber and the only one who might have enough to trade is the KAI Inca's who luckily are quite far away from me right now. They keep declaring war then sending over 2 boatloads of troops that I smash with my Sipahi. The first triggered my GA, allowing me to jump ahead of the tech curve. Got ToE, been trading techs of ones I skipped plus 100+gpt from friendly Civs.

        My next push is going to be into Spain again... for Isabela. Unfortunatly for her, she has a town with Wines and Rubber right next to me.

        Trading with Korea for oil, with which I'm building up my bombers and Navel forces.

        Whee Finnaly a fun game again!!

        SSR

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        • #34
          Quick Question

          I keep seeing screenshots that look like they've been zoomed out. Did I just miss this function in the manuel, or am I hallucinating?

          Bab declared war on me before I could steal the rubber from spain, but I beat him back with a flod of gurillas and Sipahi. Then I took the town from Spain that I wanted.

          Now Everyone is at war but me. Shesh, Just planeted a spy in Spain 139 Infantry.... dear lord. Inca trumps them with 262... How the Frell does the AI support that many units? Shesh

          SSR

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          • #35
            Originally posted by StainlessSteel
            I keep seeing screenshots that look like they've been zoomed out. Did I just miss this function in the manuel, or am I hallucinating?
            Try hitting the "z" key.

            Originally posted by StainlessSteel Now Everyone is at war but me. Shesh, Just planeted a spy in Spain 139 Infantry.... dear lord. Inca trumps them with 262... How the Frell does the AI support that many units? Shesh
            At Monarch and above the AI gets free unit support in addition to what the current government allows. The higher the difficulty level, the more. Also they often build units long after a human would have said "enough".
            Seriously. Kung freaking fu.

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            • #36
              And even so, with an efficient Republic the human can easily support just as large of a military.

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              • #37
                Huge map, 7 enemies, modern era... you should have enough empire to support at least 400 units in republic.
                Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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                • #38
                  Re: Quick Question

                  Originally posted by StainlessSteel
                  Shesh, Just planeted a spy in Spain 139 Infantry.... dear lord. Inca trumps them with 262... How the Frell does the AI support that many units? Shesh

                  SSR
                  Support is free up to the limit provided for by the form of government you are in at the time.


                  The additional free support is a function of the level of difficulty you are playing. It starts a monarch level with 4 and goes up by 4 at each level till Sid. It is 24 at sid.

                  There is an extra free unit of 1 per level from monarch to deity, with sid having 8. So you can figure it out if you want to.

                  After that you pay for any additional troops, but remember the AI gets other production bonuses, that make things cheaper.

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                  • #39
                    Mobile SAMs

                    What is the computer's? obbession with Mobile Sams?
                    Everytime one of my cities finishes ANYTHING, it wants to build a mobile SAM. All of my towns have the SAM missle batteries.... shesh.


                    SSR

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                    • #40
                      Well, the thing about Mobile SAMs is that you really need a small stack of them for them to be fully effective.

                      So either build a lot of them at once and plant in key cities or don't build any at all.
                      1st C3DG Term 7 Science Advisor 1st C3DG Term 8 Domestic Minister
                      Templar Science Minister
                      AI: I sure wish Jon would hurry up and complete his turn, he's been at it for over 1,200,000 milliseconds now.

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                      • #41
                        This game I've had good luck with just 1-2 in each border city.

                        Unfortunatly the Inca's are going to beat me to the spaceship. Unless I can get ICBMs and stop thier production.

                        I ended up in a long war with babylon, (getting me aluminum and oil) while in Democratic, which lowered my science enough for the Incas to blow past me.

                        I've been trading all my high end techs to my warring neighboors (war is profitable) To allow me to keep 100-90% research at all times, but it's still 5-6 turns each tech.

                        Looks like next Big time war game I'll have to check out communisim or Facism.

                        Or just stay in republic. :P

                        SSR

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                        • #42
                          Unite every other AI civ against the Incas...
                          The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

                          Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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                          • #43
                            Hurm

                            I would, but he has MPP with my two closest neighboors...

                            Go figure.

                            SSR

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                            • #44
                              If you can make the Inca attack you on your ground, just make MPP with the ones that should attack him. If he attacks you inside your borders, they automatically go to war. Just make sure you don't trigger the other MPP first...
                              Seriously. Kung freaking fu.

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                              • #45
                                Too late

                                Incas defeated me without ever setting foot on my soil. They took over the MUCH larger continent they were on. Trying to start a new game. Was messing around with Huge 31 civs, but damn if I'm not getting desert and jungle each start. By the time I can get a second settler out I'm caged in. Shesh. Almost like the starting possition algorythm has it in for me... hee hee.

                                I once had started next to a volcano that erupted when I hit pop 2. That makes for a fun start. I love this game, but I swear it's driving me crazy too.

                                SSR

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