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  • #16
    I can't imagine that being an exploit. Are you supposed to forego placing a city at the tip of a peninsula simply to be nice to the AI? I think not. Though I would recommend shipping a settler over there to plop down on the incense and build a harbor.
    Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Solomwi
      I can't imagine that being an exploit. Are you supposed to forego placing a city at the tip of a peninsula simply to be nice to the AI? I think not. Though I would recommend shipping a settler over there to plop down on the incense and build a harbor.
      Well, I did abandon a city and move it a tile over to capture the incense.

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      • #18
        That's not an exploit, you can consider it a colonial grab.

        In cIV, if the varying terrain effects culture expansion it won't be an issue anymore.
        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by asleepathewheel


          Well, I did abandon a city and move it a tile over to capture the incense.
          Yes, but how the city got there is irrelevant, and abandoning and refounding conquered AI cities due to poor placement is a time-honored tactic anyway.

          Would it be an exploit to have founded a new city there if the area were never settled?

          Is it an exploit to raze and rebuild for city placement purposes?

          I think these are both no answers.
          Solomwi is very wise. - Imran Siddiqui

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          • #20
            When ever I ponder whether or not to use an exploit, I remind myself that the AI is cheating.
            There's no game in The Sims. It's not a game. It's like watching a tank of goldfishes and feed them occasionally. - Urban Ranger

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            • #21
              How does it the AI cheat? It knows the map and that is its only handicap. It gets a bonus at Monarch and above, but the players gets them below Regent.

              Even with its bonus, it still loses.

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              • #22
                Not an exploit, if you declare war on that AI, you'll lose connection to the luxary immedately. And if that AI goes to war with another AI, you may lose connection as well either via harbor being destroyed are the hill tile losing road.

                The ivory isn't competely safe from fliping either from the AI. They are still allowed to plant a city 8-9 from the Ivory (until your culture expands again.) A city in that spot can compete for that tile.
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                • #23
                  Not an exploit. Doing something the AI is incapable of, yes, but are we to forego all strategy because the AI is dumb? [standard disclaimer]The AI is rather good, all things considered, but it's still a moron compared to humans[/standard disclaimer]

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #24
                    I don't think it's an exploit.

                    One was once robbed of a Iron resource by an offshore AI city in a similar way. Did I hate myself for letting that happen ...
                    Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                    It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
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                    • #25
                      From that "ethic" site:
                      "RoP Rape": Using Right of Passage to move whole armies into attack position is an egregious exploit. The point being, the turn-based nature of the game in combination with this loophole in the rules offers a benefit way out of proportion to what even the most clever betrayal could ever hope to manage. No RoP Rapes in RBCiv Epics! This includes moving units into attack position then pulling some stunt to lead that civ to declare against you (like spy activity, or demanding they leave your territory) with the express intent of foiling the letter of this rule while still wholly pursuing the something-for-nothing spirit of this exploit. Don't go there.
                      you can't really demand to leave your territory when you have a RoP

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                      • #26
                        They have 'attitude', bless them, of course I did not know half these exploits existed until they were so kind to list and explain them and that all one place, how nice.
                        The Graveyard Keeper
                        Of Creation Forum
                        If I can't answer you don't worry
                        I'll send you elsewhere

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Antrine


                          Facing a moral quandary, see link above! Just discovered this group and boy to they take this all so seriously! Anyway, by their way of thinking, I think your manuver would be considered mildly dastardly. Now this is THEIR standards, now as to mine, well my whole mod is built on Dastardly principles!

                          So, I must excuse myself from sitting in judgement, on what I consider to be a 'routine move'! Good JOB!


                          Mental note to self, never play PBEMs against these guys. I routinely employ 90% of all their 'dastardly' and 'exploitavly' tactics. I would make them explode with anger somewhere in the ancient age
                          Don't eat the yellow snow.

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                          • #28
                            Yes, I think they missed out in studying the history of the British Empire's foreign policy at 'work' ( we the US learned from them ).

                            To quote, Hitler in a frustrating moment early on in the war, 'If I just get away with half of what the British routinely get away with, I could win this war!'

                            P.S. Do not hold me too tight to the quote above, I read some book or another decades ago.
                            The Graveyard Keeper
                            Of Creation Forum
                            If I can't answer you don't worry
                            I'll send you elsewhere

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                            • #29
                              I dont think its an exploit.
                              *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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                              • #30
                                Not only is it not an exploit, it actually matches what may/could happen in real life.

                                City development "expands" due to market forces and/or government incentives and leadership. Your city "expanded" one tile to the east. The specific mechanism is that you disbanded and used the settler to build a new city. Forget the mechanism, this result has been going on through human history as populations shift from place to place.
                                Haven't been here for ages....

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