Do you consider this an exploit, see pic

[asleepathewheel]

In this game I captured a few cities on an island and noticed that I was within 2 tiles of a lux, so I disbanded a captured city and moved it one tile to the NE, then rushed a temple, capturing the lux in 5 turns. The lux is separated from my city by water, as both masses are islands.

Is this trick an exploit against an undermatched AI? I don't have a problem doing this when I'm on the same landmass, but the water creates a "moral" dillema for me. I will say that I once did this when C3C came out, to snatch an ivory deposit and build Zeus. Talk about cheap!

[asleepathewheel]

erm, trying again in non-link form

[Kloreep]

The AI is somewhat disadvantaged, as I imagine a human would realize what you were doing and pillage the tile rather than let you steal it in this situation. But... I'd say all's fair in the culture war. You would lose it if you stopped being allowed through their trade network.

[Antrine]

http://realmsbeyond.net/civ/etactics.html

Facing a moral quandary, see link above! Just discovered this group and boy to they take this all so seriously! Anyway, by their way of thinking, I think your manuver would be considered mildly dastardly. Now this is THEIR standards, now as to mine, well my whole mod is built on Dastardly principles!

So, I must excuse myself from sitting in judgement, on what I consider to be a 'routine move'! Good JOB!

[asleepathewheel]

I feel dirty after visiting that site

[Antrine]

Me too, bad isn't it...

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Kloreep
The AI is somewhat disadvantaged, as I imagine a human would realize what you were doing and pillage the tile rather than let you steal it in this situation. But... I'd say all's fair in the culture war. You would lose it if you stopped being allowed through their trade network.

Good point. I will have to go to great lengths to maintain peace with the Aztecs in that game, currently they are one of 2 civs that are comparable to me, early medieval....

tread lightly

[vmxa1]

I don't see a big problem as a city will be placed near the lux soon anyway.

[alva]

I will say that I once did this when C3C came out, to snatch an ivory deposit and build Zeus. Talk about cheap!

Are you even able to use it? IIRC you need a city on the island to do so.

[Theseus]

Nah, if the Calix-blahblahblah doesn't have enough culture to hold on to the tile, you deserve it!

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by vmxa1
I don't see a big problem as a city will be placed near the lux soon anyway.

Ah, but due to the AI's spacing issues, they won't. the lux tile is one square outside the city's workable tiles. They will never touch it, and since it is in my city's workable tiles, I get preference.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by alva

I will say that I once did this when C3C came out, to snatch an ivory deposit and build Zeus. Talk about cheap!

Are you even able to use it? IIRC you need a city on the island to do so.

Nope, when its in a city's workable tiles, you don't need a city on the island to use it. If it was outside the city screen, then you would, I think.

[alva]

Nope, when its in a city's workable tiles, you don't need a city on the island to use it. If it was outside the city screen, then you would, I think.

Hmm, I'm pretty sure that at least in some Ci3 version you couldn't. ( If the source is within the city screen)

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by alva

Nope, when its in a city's workable tiles, you don't need a city on the island to use it. If it was outside the city screen, then you would, I think.

Hmm, I'm pretty sure that at least in some Ci3 version you couldn't. ( If the source is within the city screen)

Well, IIRC, and this was a loong time ago, it was connected to a foreign city with a harbor...

And anyway, with all the changes documented and undocumented to this game, I can't remmeber the specifics of any patch.

[Dominae]

Not really an exploit.

The AI would do the same thing (unintentionally) that you did (intentionally). It's when you do something the AI would never do (intentionally or not) that you're using an exploit.

You must have a trade connection with the green civ because you do not benefit from a resource if it's not connected to your trade network, even if it's within your cultural borders and has a Road on it.