Air missions

[Robert]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
Imagine the micromanagement if you could bomb individual citizens!

---> Chance to hit a prominent scientist/military tactician/engineer that harms the city for several turns...?

It's optional micromanagement. And optional micromanagement is not a problem since you don't have to use it.

[MrWhereItsAt]

That sounds horribly like MoO3 to me....

[Mad Bomber]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Yeah, when I wrote down the 'reality' thing, I knew you would come up with this. And you're right.

But in this case I think it makes sence. It's not very cool to have the most advanced air system, hundreds of stealth-fighters, and still see the enemy simply taking out all your units and city-improvements.

I'll leave the reality-can of worms out of it, and just say: The game sucks when 1000 bombers ruin your cities

In order to intercept a bomber you have to put your fighter units on a air superiority mission. Success of interception can be modded (default is 50% against non-stealth air units and 5% against stealth units) in the editor. In Civ IV, though I would like to see the interception rate modified by either unit or tech's as it makes no sense for a F-15 to have a 50% failure rate against non-stealth units.

Of course you could put a few flak units to defend cities as well.

[Robert]

that's what I mean.
It must be possible to defend your city against aircrafts

[spy14]

Re: Re: Air missions

Originally posted by Kucinich


I stopped reading here.

Seriously, though, the CTP system sucks. The AI is completely incapable of using it effectively, it's counterintuitive (why exactly can't I land my Stealth Bomber in this city? Because I have twelve land units in it already? ), and the C3 system is incredibly easy to use.

Unless the land units are parked on the runway I cant see to much problem. Air and ground crew can be accomodated with other units already in the area (seriously - sub crews manage )

It would be nice also to be able to launch cruise missiles from bombers aka CTP2

[Mad Bomber]

Originally posted by CyberShy
that's what I mean.
It must be possible to defend your city against aircrafts

I don't really understand the comment, a size 20 bomber force opposed by 5 jet fighters and 2 flak units would suffer a 65% loss rate over 4 turns. It is already quite possible to defend against aircraft in Civ III.

[Paddy]

Re: Air missions

Originally posted by spy14
Whats the general view on the way air misions are handled? I think we should go to a CTP style system in Civ4, where you get to select your own route. Heres why:

At the moment I often find if I want to attack 2 different targets, I spend a turn attacking the first, then I re-base my aircraft on the second turn, then I bomb the second target the third turn.

With a CTP system I could (assuming all is within range) take off from base 1, attack my first target, and land at base 2 all in one turn. In the second turn I can then attack my second target, saving valuable time.

I actually like the idea, and remeber some great missions using the CTP style.

Yet, so too I have been having fun with the current system.

There is some fun to be had sending in the fighter bombers in the WWII conquest...

[Mad Bomber]

Re: Re: Air missions

Originally posted by Paddy the Scot


I actually like the idea, and remeber some great missions using the CTP style.

Yet, so too I have been having fun with the current system.

There is some fun to be had sending in the fighter bombers in the WWII conquest...

There are a few things that I liked about Civ 2 and CTP style air systems; such as allowing bombers to carry cruise missles and having air units perform ASW, but on the whole I like the CIV III system more. The figher-bombers in the conquest scenario are great as well.