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  • Iroquois Anomaly?

    It seems that the Six Nations are not thought well of around here. I often see suggestions along the lines of strengthening the Iroquois.

    In almost every game I've played in which the Iroquois were an AI opponent, they jumped out to an early lead over all their neighbors and maintained that dominance well into modern times.

    They especially seem to play well against the other AIs but they often do a good job of hamstringing me, too.

    Anyone else have a particular civ that always seems to be your nemesis?
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  • #2
    Every nation that has mobile unit with attack of 3 and Agricultural trait is powerful (like Iroquois or Celts).

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    • #3
      The commerce trait lets them have a larger OCN, which helps in later game too.

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      • #4
        Egyptians. Thay are not that agressive, but they usually beat the other AIs and become really, really powerful.

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        • #6
          Their Vanilla & PTW strength may have been debatable since Exp was worthless on some maps, but C3C Iroquois are incredibly strong IMO.

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          • #7
            Yup in C3C Iroq moved up and US moved down (industry took a hit).

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            • #8
              The AI does really well with the Inca
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              • #9
                Originally posted by vmxa1
                Yup in C3C Iroq moved up and US moved down (industry took a hit).
                Double take...double entendre?
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                • #10
                  In general, good land = strong AI whatever their traits.
                  The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by player1
                    Every nation that has mobile unit with attack of 3 and Agricultural trait is powerful (like Iroquois or Celts).
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                    • #12
                      The Zulus are my nemesis. I don't know how, but they always turn into a killer AI, and they really like to throw their weight around. Zulus! Fahsands of 'em!

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                      • #13
                        The Zulus were always a pain in any game they appear. Perhaps the annoyance factor of a race is a function of wherever their aggression level is set.
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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by panag
                          hi ,

                          the US of A

                          have a nice day
                          In the game or real world?
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                          • #15
                            The Zulus always self-destruct in my games. Can only recall one game in which they lasted into the Modern Times.
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