what's different of a winning elite unit?

[jamesyao]

both on the plain or grass land, if I attack the infantry I will normally win, but if I am attacked by the infantry, 50% of chance (or even more) my tank will lose.

[Jaybe]

That is how it should be, jamesyao. Regardless of the game numbers, tanks without infantry support usually end up being burned-out hulks (in real life).

[Tassadar500]

Originally posted by jamesyao
both on the plain or grass land, if I attack the infantry I will normally win, but if I am attacked by the infantry, 50% of chance (or even more) my tank will lose.

That is because the Infantry have an attack of twelve while the tanks have only a defence of ten.

[TheArsenal]

Long story short: last night I created a leader at the northern most tip of my continent, owned by the Arabs, whom I am in a near phony war with so their cities are all intact. The creating unit was killed next turn, but I moved the leader out of harm’s way. This is where I paused the game.

So tonight I now am going to try to use the extra move of the leader to work it through a large Arabian territory to safety. The game is modded to not allow cities on tundra, so there is a bit of space. And I going to send an escort to meet it.

Even so, I do not have high hopes. But it is the first time I've been in this situation, so who knows?

More on topic: I now give leader creating units overblown names like “Victory Remains Ours”, “Foe Vanquisher” and such nonsense.

[Last Conformist]

Actually, Infantry has an attack of six, and Tanks a defense of eight, so Tanks should win most of the time if attacked by Inf, regardless of terrain.

[Last Conformist]

Oh, and I tend to name Elite*s after the leader they spawned: Trajan's Legion (or Legio Traiana if I'm feeling particularly latinate), Lee's Cavalry, Agum's Mechanized, etc.

[Tassadar500]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
Actually, Infantry has an attack of six, and Tanks a defense of eight, so Tanks should win most of the time if attacked by Inf, regardless of terrain.

Are you using any mods? Or perhaps it was changed in PTW or Conquests...

[vmxa1]

In C3C Infantry is att 6 def 10 and tank is 16 att and 8 def.

Inf attacks tank and wins 30.1% with no bonus for any.
Tank attacks infantry and wins 60.5% with no bonus.

So it is not a winning proposition for the infantry either way. give me 50 tanks and you 50 infantry and I will take my chances.

[:) Smiley]

I once had a spearman defeat a tank, yet it didnt generate a leader. What gives?

[Drachen]

I just use 1st, 2nd, etc and usually drop them into the newly created army but I must admit that Legio Traiana does have a nice ring to it.

[spy14]

Originally posted by Smiley
I once had a spearman defeat a tank, yet it didnt generate a leader. What gives?

According to some that result has never, ever happened in the history of Civ3

[Proserpine]

quote:
Originally posted by Smiley
I once had a spearman defeat a tank, yet it didnt generate a leader. What gives?


According to some that result has never, ever happened in the history of Civ3


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It happens, just not very often. There is a calculable probability. Leader generation is an entirely independent randomly-generated event. There is nothing that says if the spear wins it has to generate a leader. Anyway the spear would have to be elite first (whether it becomes elite is also random-finite probability) - you can't become elite and generate a leader as a result of the same combat.

[Changmai Beagle]

Although many many times I have wished my spearman would defeat that damned tank.

[spy14]

Originally posted by Proserpine It happens, just not very often. There is a calculable probability. Leader generation is an entirely independent randomly-generated event. There is nothing that says if the spear wins it has to generate a leader. Anyway the spear would have to be elite first (whether it becomes elite is also random-finite probability) - you can't become elite and generate a leader as a result of the same combat.

I know it can happen (I forget the odds but they are very low). My never happens comment was a little sideswipe at some debates i've had on these forums

I believe the Spear (elite) has exactly the same chance as any other unit of generating a leader.

[Tassadar500]

Originally posted by Changmai Beagle
Although many many times I have wished my spearman would defeat that damned tank.

You still have spearman around when there are tanks?