Rank the Traits: Seafaring

[kobo1d]

Hi all. Long time reader, 1st time poster.
I was curious how everyone would "rank" the traits.
This time: Seafaring

On a scale of 0-5, 0 being totally worthless and 5 being the best, how would everyone rank the Sea. trait?

Update

Seafaring averaged 3.405 after 37 votes.
5th highest ranked.

Chart coming soon

[vmxa1]

I voted 3, but I am not a big fan of this trait as some. You just don't need it that much even on archipelago maps. I do see a scenario where having dromons could make things easier, but not required.

[kobo1d]

updated stats

[Aqualung71]

An important new trait and easily exploitable to great advantage by a human player against the AI.

I simply don't see how people can rate this trait below Religious.

[Mountain Sage]

Max points if you play on archipelago. Without curraghs from turn one, you don't explore and you don't trade techs...

And since all your cities will be on the seashore, half-priced harbors are always a good deal...

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by Mountain Sage
And since all your cities will be on the seashore, half-priced harbors are always a good deal...

And let's not forget the extra commerce in the centre square for cities.

[Donegeal]

Mmmmm....
Byzantines that have built the Great Lighthouse....

5 move Dromans.....
:drool:

[vulture]

Fairly good, particularly with the early contacts. Virtually useless for the AI. Doesn't provide the fun that other traits to IMHO.

[Arrian]

4.

Start with alphabet. Bonus commerce for coastal cities. Extra move/lower sinking chance.

Very powerful in most situations. On a pangea, not so much. But on arch/continents, it rocks.

-Arrian

[Aeson]

Same here, 4. Cheaper Harbors are always nice too.

[kobo1d]

updated stats

[Goethe80]

A 4 for me. The seafaring trait is much more useful especially after I've moved up a level to Emp.

Useful for being in the trade loop, making full use of the GL (if you get it), plus not to mention the long term power of having that slightly faster sea unit (in my opinion, sea units lose a great deal of their mobility bonus after the railroad).

Of course, the draw back is that it's heavily map dependent. If you're on a pangea, then it's quite useless, and on archi maps, it's not that hard to cross sea/ocean tiles since the gap is much smaller. Very useful on continent maps for those 'suicide' ships looking for the other 1/2 of the opponents.

[TheArsenal]

4.
I like this trait quite a bit on the large continent maps I play: slightly decreased chance of sinking, early contact, cheap harbors, control of communications and an earlier understanding of the shape of the world are all good. And with wonder enabled +2 movement, overseas invasions are little easier as well as catching and picking off the occasional ships the AI sends to harass (bombardment, or dropping off the one or two units on your soil) before they reach the shore or disappear back into the fog of war.

[eris]

The logistics of naval matters in Civ drive me crazy. It seems clumsy and slow compared to other parts of the game. I know it adds to the complexity and multi-level nature of the game, and I even appreciate the gameplay when I do have to address water-based issues. However, I still hate water and often reload maps that are archipelago or just too darn flooded. My hydrophobia lowers my appreciation of this particular trait, whose advantages have already been well described.

Voted 3.

[kobo1d]

updated stats
seafaring dropped from 3rd to 5th