Rank the Traits: Agricultural

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Dominae
You mean when you reload?

And play on Chieftan...

[ZEE]

i actually give agricultural a 3, since you DONT get the full benefits of it, 1 extra food in every city, until you get out of despotism, or you are next to a source of fresh water. has nobody else noticed this? this may be a bug, or done intentionally, and the extra food for irrigated deserts is the best early on benefit of this trait. when i get out of despo i am usually done REXing anyway so thats why, IMHO they screwed agricultural.

[vmxa1]

It was done on purpose to prevent it from being even more powerful.

The extra food in the city center (you at least will found on water) is quite a boon. The despot handicap is true for all trait as regards food.

Chances are you will have a river and be able to found 2 or more cities on it. I figure the desert bit is a small thing for most maps.

[kobo1d]

updated stats

[Goethe80]

a clear 5. unbeatable trait here. 1 extra food = 1/2 a typical grassland's food production (well, most of the time anyway). The bonus lets you either setup worker/settler pumps, or even out the food deficit from working that hill/plains/etc.

I'm not sure about the complaints abt it being too strong though. Or rather, I can't see an alternative implementation of agriculture. To give a flat %bonus to food production? Too strong in late game, useless in early game. And there aren't that many 'food' buildings anyhow.

[eris]

This trait is almost like having an automatic Pyramids. Add in that my empire can grow amoeba-like right across those deserts. Yes! More food means more people. More people means more production, money, points on the scoreboard, and it even means more food as the people work more food tiles. I am convinced that all the ways to exploit the advantages of an Agricultural civ have not been discovered yet. I know I am still figuring it out myself.

voted 5

[Plotinus]

I keep seeing people going on about how Agricultural is obviously the most powerful trait but I haven't seen a cogent explanation of why this is so. A single extra food per city and the ability to make decent cities in deserts doesn't seem so great to me. What am I missing?

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Plotinus
I keep seeing people going on about how Agricultural is obviously the most powerful trait but I haven't seen a cogent explanation of why this is so. A single extra food per city and the ability to make decent cities in deserts doesn't seem so great to me. What am I missing?

Read the article I just posted a few hours ago and maybe you'll see why.

[Cerbykins]

4. The one time I got a REAL shot at it, messing around on Chieftain working on the art of micromanagement and what I hear in snooker as 'crossing the line' (the psych barrier that faces a player in not just building a lead, but actually winning OUTRIGHT - as oppsed to someone whose nerve breaks just short and leavs them stuck just short of victory while the opposition catches up). Pyramids, deserts, and agricultural. Fastest tech growth I've EVER had. Not that it says much, but to me, a few hundred years BC into the middle ages, industrial by 880 and (what would have been) modern by the 15th century - even on a tiny map - is nothing short of shocking. Then again, I'm no specialist

[kobo1d]

updated stats
nothing new here...

[Plotinus]

[Trip] Of course, I read your article straight after posting here. Points taken. I have to say I'm still not enormously convinced, but I must get more experience playing Agricultural civilisations.

[Arnelos]

5. I hate agriculatural. It's way too d*** powerful.