C3C Patch 1.20 Bug Thread

[SirPartyMan]

The April's joke was a day early this year. And it was played by a company called Firaxis and we the customers who purchased Conquests were the fooled.

The testers (if any) are clearly the fools.

If anyone doubts me, try it yourself. One of the most basic functions "LOAD GAME" doesn't work at all in MP mode. It fails the same way every time. We confirmed this in a dozen tests or more yesterday.

We were forced to uninstall Conquests and revert back to the 1.15 patch.

I believe the community deserves an apology and response and fast resolution to this issue.

Sincerely,
SirPartyMan

[TheArsenal]

So just to be clear:

If starting a brand new game, there are no ill-effects in the single player game? It is only the MP game which is screwed beyond reason?

(My hard drive is being repaired - don't ask - it will be sometime before I can find out for myself).

[SirPartyMan]

I can't speak to the bugs in the Single Player version of the game. I haven't tested SP Mode with patch 1.20, though I've read of errors such as starting with Radio in 4000BC.

The serious bug we found involved Multiplayer mode.

SPM

[sloejack]

Originally posted by TheArsenal
So just to be clear:

If starting a brand new game, there are no ill-effects in the single player game? It is only the MP game which is screwed beyond reason?

(My hard drive is being repaired - don't ask - it will be sometime before I can find out for myself).

That is correct. You can re-retrieve the 1.15 beta patch from the Atari web site, ftp://ftp.infogrames.net/patches/civ...tsFULLBetav115

If you've installed 1.20 over 1.15, you'll notice that 1.20 doesn't have a proper uninstall. The first time I ran the 1.15 patch it uninstalled and then I ran it again and it re-installed 1.15. All save games from 1.15 worked just fine. Any games started in 1.20 obviously can not be loaded with 1.15

[player1]

Things I see wrong with the patch.

First, MPTournament.biq refers to 1.18 patch.
Also it still has a Radio tech implemented.
This is also true for all other BIQ files added with Conquests.
Like Cheaper Upgrades.biq, MPFastCiv3Conquests.biq, No Civ Traits.biq, No Unique Units.biq, Quick Civ.biq, With Plague.biq, etc... They all need to be changed to reflect the newest rules.

Second, even conquests.biq is not done properly.
It still has Radio tech in its list, but as non-era tech which is added to all civs at start.
Should be deleted, since it gives some bugs, like starting game with Radio or Radio in Civilopedia.

Third, Civilopeida.txt isn't changed to reflect that Radio tech is removed. Which means that "Enables Radar Towers" entry needs to be moved from Radio to Electronics.

Fourth, as alexman reported, it looks that Civ3Conquests.exe looks for science_industrial_new.pcx for industrial era, which gives error in all scenarios. It should look to science_industrial.pcx instead, and science_industrial_new.pcx needs to replace science_industrial.pcx

Fifth: These are very serious bugs.



Optional: When we are there, maybe some other easy things could be fixed.
-Like adding WWII Paratrooper in list of units with ZOC in Civilopedia
-removing offense AI flag from Musketeer (PtW leftover, when it had attack of 3)
-fixing bug with Inca leader being targetable by Stl. Fighter stealth attack (this maybe is not bug since stealth attack doesn't work for air units anyway)
-and if any conquests.biq changes are done, then adding them to other optional BIQs should be done too

[Jerh9e1k5]

Has anyone heard anything from Firaxis on this? If not I'm not really surprised, I would be very embarassed if I were them... They're probably scared to show their face.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Any change you can tell me what Jesus Christ has to do with this?

he is the savior, and this is the rapture. patches that break things more will only lead to the drstruction of the world as we know it.

[snoochems]

Originally posted by CyberShy


yeah, sure

I tried to break a cd once. It didn't work at once.
It's in fact pretty hard to break one.
CD's don't get broken by accident. You're either lying, or you broke it on purpose.

In both cases you don't deserve a non-cd patch.

Don't be so presumptuous you twit. I have tried to break cd's too. It's hard. Damn hard. That's why i was so pissed when my CD fell about half a meter and broke in two.

I'm not lying and if you don't believe me, well, too bad i guess. I have the two halves of the CD still, i can send you them if you want.

I'm not buying another copy, so CD cracks are my only option at the moment.

[FrustratedPoet]

I'm not really sure why I still find **** like this surprising.

The incompetence at work here is staggering.

[Fatwreck]

I´ve always supported Firaxis and have thought thay do a good job...

but now? The only word I can find is dissapointment´

[JesseSmith]

Patch

An update will be posted soon. Please don't deceive yourselves by thinking that we are incapable of making mistakes. We are working hard to resolve the problems found with v1.20

Thanks,

Jesse

[alexman]

[Fried-Psitalon]

Works for me. Any company that goes "Hey, we're human too, mistakes made but we're fixing it" still gets my cash.

[Wittlich]

Re: Patch

Originally posted by JesseSmith
An update will be posted soon. Please don't deceive yourselves by thinking that we are incapable of making mistakes. We are working hard to resolve the problems found with v1.20

Thanks,

Jesse

Tactfully spoken Jesse.

Glad to know that Firaxis is aware of the problems with v1.20 and are working on it.

[player1]

Re: Patch

Originally posted by JesseSmith
An update will be posted soon. Please don't deceive yourselves by thinking that we are incapable of making mistakes. We are working hard to resolve the problems found with v1.20

Thanks,

Jesse

That's all I wanted to hear.