AI Army in the Field (REALLY)!!

[Antrine]

EDIT EDIT EDIT DISCLOSURE/WARNING This thread is ONLY dealing with heavily modded games!! And is not meant to imply a 'standard' out of the box or 'vanilla' game experience. And IS NOT meant for Firaxis not to FIX the problem with timely goodly patches. END of EDIT/DISCLOSURE



Here it is it REALLY happens, An AI Army in the field having attacked previous turn is now facing off against one my Armies

[IMG]Army verses Army[/IMG]

[vmxa1]

Cool, but what is 9754BC? Some coquest maps?

[Antrine]

This map is the Rise of Rome enlarged to 180 by 286 so as to include all of Scandinavia, Iceland, Russia to Mongolia and all of North Central Afrika with all Saudi Arabia and old Persia. I start it at 10,000 BC and move forward slowly in increments of 5, 4 and 3 years out to turn 200.

It is a pity to destroy such a 'rare animal' as an AI Army in the field attacking.

I do not wish to discourage the AI from doing it again! Anyway this is a highly 'modded' scenario and I have 'rigged' the AI's to use Armies by allowing one army per two cities and having everyones Palace spitting out a Army every 15 turns. The AI has used Armies before filled with defensive units for to defend their Capitols, however this is the 'first' I have encountered out in open being used more as a human player might.

Such a pity, I destroy it soon...

[vmxa1]

Dam, I thought we had prove of a real army in action from the AI.

[Antrine]

I think, using an Army is so far down the AI's 'what if' routines, that you must unendate them with them so it is hard to miss using them at least 'rarely'. Better to mod or rig the AI to use units than suck on 'Vanilla' and b*t*h all the time.

[Antrine]

[IMG]SecondAIArmy[/IMG]

It is becoming an epidemic!! Another, AI (an ally via paying tribute to) is moving an Army in the field south to join my campaign against the one who first fielded an army. (see first picture). Notice the Berserkers further North coming down as well. I'm glad I agreed to the tribute, not that I could not afford it.

[Inverse Icarus]

hrm. this warrants some further testing.

is the AI just not using armies because they have a problem turning leaders into them? i remember hearing a story of an AI using a leader to rush a spearman.

maybe i should mod my palace to give civs armies every 15 turns or so... hrmmm...

[Antrine]

Yes, I discovered that giving the AI Leaders was useless, as they always preferred to use them to 'rush' things instead of turning them into Armies. So now I keep them to an Army only diet. Seems to be working handy.

[MrWhereItsAt]

As this is a Conquest, could the AI not have started with these armies?

/me hasn't played any Conquests yet....

[Antrine]

No, if I understand your question correctly. This is a Conquest editor Mod started on a modded Conquest map only. Each AI starts with 5 settlers and such, however with no Armies. They come to each AI and the human player via the Palace every 15 turns, so at time of these pictures it was around turn 56 and we each have 3 armies with another coming at turn 60.

[joncha]

I encountered an AI army in a PTW game... I conquered my continent, the Germans conquered theirs, and when my invasion fleet landed (think d-day, only with more tanks) it was greeted by, among other things, and swordsman army.

I'll see if I still have a save kicking around so I can post a screenshot.

jon.

[vmxa1]

Antrine are those little fences barricades?

[vmxa1]

joncha armies are encountered in PTW. It is not so clear in C3C. I do not recall fighting any, I thought I had seen one, but not in combat.

They at least are very rare.

[Fatwreck]

Originally posted by joncha
I encountered an AI army in a PTW game... I conquered my continent, the Germans conquered theirs, and when my invasion fleet landed (think d-day, only with more tanks) it was greeted by, among other things, and swordsman army.

I'll see if I still have a save kicking around so I can post a screenshot.

jon.

the problem with the AI never building armies came with C3C, I saw armies in vanilla Civ3 (never owned PtW though)

[Anakha]

In my monarch-level Rise of Rome conquest, I encountered Hannibal with an army of elephants, out in the field making attacks. Didn't need to do any modding to get that to happen, but, having not played the Carthaginians in that conquest yet, I don't know if maybe the Carthaginians start off with Hannibal in an army instead of just as a leader...