Demigod - play-a-long strategy

[vmxa1]

So Thriller you are playing the original map, not the demi2 one?
Why was it changed again? Lack of resources or something.

[ducki]

Originally posted by vmxa1
I have run into the problem that ducki has, were your palace prebuild is about to finsih and you do not have Lit. Very scary, especially if you have no wonder to fall back on.

It gets worse - Sumeria completed the GLib the next turn.
/sigh
Time to max income and hope I can appear to be making enough money to buy Feudalism.

The up side to Sumeria building it outright is...
...his monopoly on Literature is unbroken(as far as I know) and therefore, there is no cascade from that.


Edit: Here's my save, am I in ok shape for Demigod or what?

[vmxa1]

To tell you the truth I don't know if a few wins at Demi and nothing but losses at Sid qualifies me to make a response.

BUt hey, that never stopped me before.

Iwould have like to see you grab the land by Satsuma right after
Tokyo to prevent the Maya settlement. Then take two curraghs and stick them by the cow at Satsuma to prevent any one from going around to search. Just block it.

Then fill in as fast as you can the land south (iceland) to get in position to stop anyone that ties to settle.

Edo and Nara could wait as I try to get the circumference settled.
The three settlers plus those two would be close to enough to prevent any new settlements.

After that you are going to have to go get some more land.

Go get em.

[ducki]

How's this for insane - Republic got traded around and 3 civs have Mono, but Sumeria still has his monopoly on Engineering and Feudalism - I'm thinking I'll buy Republic, revolt immediately, 2 turns of anarchy, and I should have 3-4 turns of leeway for the higher income(I hope) to buy me Feudal before I build a really expensive cathedral. Plus that's a few more turns the AI can trade.

Eep.

[Jon Shafer]

Hey ducki.

Your progress looks okay. You have a lot of cities with Granaries, but your city sizes are small and you don't have all that many. You could probably also use some more Workers.

Here's a screenshot of my game at 210 BC (closest to your save that I could get). Please ignore the disorder in Satsuma.

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by vmxa1
So Thriller you are playing the original map, not the demi2 one?
Why was it changed again? Lack of resources or something.

Yes, I played the original one. Would have liked for others to try it too so I have something to compare against....seems liuke DrSpike is the only taker so far.

Yes, the main problem was resources....(although the REAL problem is that this is Demigod )

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by Thriller
Yes, the main problem was resources....(although the REAL problem is that this is Demigod )

I don't know the extra land vs the lack of resources is a close call.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Thriller


Yes, I played the original one. Would have liked for others to try it too so I have something to compare against....seems liuke DrSpike is the only taker so far.

Yes, the main problem was resources....(although the REAL problem is that this is Demigod )

I'm playing demi2, but I will play yours after.

[DrSpike]

Ducki I took a look at your save. I don't think there is anything terrible about it, but I'm not getting a feel that you have a plan, a direction. It looks like you went for the GL and failed, and this cost you and left you directionless.

I know I am going to get shouted at as always for saying this, but the GL is often just a crutch for weaker players. I wont say never build it, but you need a good reason. There is no problem on this map staying in touch until education, and 400 shields early on that should be spent on expansion is way way too big. We can see the effects on your expansion in the save, and Maya should not be grabbing your land - you (and the rest of us!) don't have enough as it is. The GL was built in my game on turn 108, and I wouldn't have built it by then even if I had tried and had the tech. As I said above, I consider a GL opening highly questionable here.

Big cities are not as good here as covering the meagre land you have fast. I went with some granaries early to give me some nice pop kicking cities. I only lost one spot in the middle of the tundra to the Greeks (whilst I was blocking the Maya!!) and I got all 3 islands. Also, at 270BC I had at least 3 times as many workers........you definitely need more at this stage.

Anyways, hope that helps, and this is IMO a tough map on which to play your first or one of your first demigod games. Keep plugging away, and your civ will surely prosper in the end.

[ducki]

You know what, DrSpike? You're absolutely right.
I think my thinking was "Good lord, I can barely afford to stay in the middle of tech(as opposed to dead last) and the Maya are moving fast so the free tech and extra culture sure would help."
On the other hand, learning to play at Emperor, I have come to accept the fact that none of the Ancient Wonders have my name on them, and the loss would not be so bad if I could buy into Feudalism.

Dead right on the workers, I've since started remedying that, along with the expansion to the extent I can.

Still, you're right, I feel into the "I can't keep up, I better build the GLib," trap and should have known better.


One oddity I've noticed, I seem to get riots on the turn that a town grows into unhappiness instead of the normal turn after. Is that part of Demi-god or do I just need to look closer? I may have been overtired.

Thanks for taking a look, guys.

[DrSpike]

There are no differences regarding how unhappiness works that I'm aware of other than the obvious 2nd citizen being unhappy.

[vmxa1]

Same as all levels. You grow and if it creates more unhappy citizens than happy ones you will get disorder next run.

[vmxa1]

Ducki if you let the gov manage the city, it will often take a specialist and put it to work and cause the unhappiness.

Dr Spike I would agree that blocking is a priority in that map. If anyone landed a settler combo, I would hope to have troops nearby that could capture some slaves.

The GL will probably not pay off well in this map as contacts will be lacking. I am not fond of it anyway.

[ducki]

Unless govs were enabled in the sav, I never let them manage anything.

[vmxa1]

I figured that, but it is easy to over look things when you get a save form here. I am always finding they have turned on autosave.
Also I like to have the color blind help on and that is often turned off. It gives the civ names and I find that helpful now that the colors are so similar.

The worst is the wait at end being off, why?