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  • #16
    Talk about unbalanced (not) I got my only SGL in my current game from Robotics, is that funny or what.

    I was first to all Modern tech , all non optional techs in Industrial
    and I don't know how many in the previous age.

    This is common for me, only rarely do I get one beofre industrial age. If I do I am tempted to abandon the game and declare victory.
    The only issue is that when I used the ancient age SGL for Pyramids, it will likely trigger a GA.

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    • #17
      I've been in the tech lead the whole game in my most recent game, haven't seen an SGL yet. If I get one now, I'll just use it to boost my research, as no one else can build any of the wonders.
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      • #18
        I just got an SGL with writing! Booyah. I think I'll build Zeus.

        This is the second game out of my last oh 4 I think that I've gotten such an early sgl. the other one I used on the pyramids.

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        • #19
          Are you plating a Science civ?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by vmxa1
            Are you plating a Science civ?
            nope one was as the frenchies, this current one was as the indians.

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            • #21
              I've just gotten 1 myself in the epic game. (Not a scientific civ though)
              I basically earned one late in the industrial era with a few turns left in my peaceful GA from building Hoover Dam [I'm playing the Mayas]. I just sat on the SGL until entering the modern era and picked computers and used him on SETI. I was already significantly ahead in the AI when I built Hoovers so it's primarly effect is speeding up when I reach the tech to lauch the space ship.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by vmxa1
                Are you plating a Science civ?
                I never can really tell a difference - the probability really only varies over lots of games. In one game a Scientific civ won't likely have much more luck with SGL's than a nonscientific one.

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                • #23
                  The only time I have had more than one (3) was as a SCI civ. The boost is small but, it is still almost twice a non SCI.

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                  • #24
                    I've found them 'unbalancing', so to speak, but since they're so random you can't really call it unbalancing. I got two in the mesopotamia conquest, giving me the collossus and ToA (basically winning the scenario for me), and I've gotten a few in other games too. But I've NEVER gotten a MGL, despite the number of elite victories I've had.
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                    • #25
                      I think their more balance than MGLs since anyone can get an SGL when they research a tech first. MGLs are only available to a player conqurering someone else which would mean they most likely already had a military advantage.

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                      • #26
                        Well, in all of my games I have only received ONE SGL (in a SP game). So I have no insight into the SGLs being unbalancing or not.
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                        • #27
                          In the AoD scenario I got three on my first three techs when playing as Portugal.

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                          • #28
                            Switch you have had no MGL's? That is astonishing. I never had less than 4 in a full game.
                            My last one I only had two wars and got 8.

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                            • #29
                              I'm playing Monarch, C3C, mid-size continents, 8 civs.

                              I've generated 3 SGLs this game. Used them on Knights Templar, JSBach and Theory of Evolution. The latter put me in line for the Hoover Dam well before I was expecting it.

                              I tried another game where I used the SGL for the increased science output. I think it is better to use on wonders.

                              Does Heroic Epic help with SGL chances?

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                              • #30
                                I think the general view is that, in most cases, using SGL's for accelerated science is a waste, especially since you can have more than one at once. I'm sure there are specific situations where the faster research rate would be helpful, but generally you're better off with the Wonder.

                                To answer your question, heroic epic has no affect on your SGL chances. Being scientific, however, does increase the likelihood that you'll get one.
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