Ducki Does C3C at Emperor

[Mountain Sage]

Oh Mighty Sages of MicroManagement!

Here is a problem to solve:

1. Colonize the entire island/continent.
3. Pack the max. number of cities.
2. Build at least 4 Curraghs asap.
3. Build the GLib.

How would you proceed?

[Mountain Sage]

The starting turn:

[Krill]

Holy cr*p. You must have done that in the editor

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph

What, YOU forgot that the Japanese are religious? Who are you, and what have you done with Arrian? Thanks, that saved my day, after the announcement of the weak 1.20 patch ruined it.

Yeah, total brain fart on my part there

I haven't played the Japanese in a long time, SR. I've been messing with the Iroquois, Sumerians, Dutch, Aztecs, and I've got a fun one going as the Babs (my *old* favorite).

Glad to have provided some comic relief. I did that at work yesterday too, so I was everybody's clown, I guess.

-Arrian

[Arrian]

T1: move settler east. Worker irrigates.
T2: found city, work cattle tile worker is on. Set research to pottery if you don't already have it.

Hey, that's important, actually. Is this an agricultural civ, MS?

-Arrian

[Harovan]

Ugh!

/me senses two mighty settler/worker pumps.

[Arrian]

Maybe even three, actually.

-Arrian

[Dominae]

...or you could just build the Pyramids.

[Arrian]

Bah. The only time I get the Pyramids is via SGL or war... or maybe if I get lucky with a settler from a hut and a perfect production site for it.

-Arrian

[Dominae]

What is it about that starting location that is not perfect for building the Pyramids? I'm sure you could secure it on any difficulty level but Sid...


Dominae

[Arrian]

I'm not saying one couldn't nab the Pyramids.

I just usually don't bother investing in it.

Early granary = 60 shields. This can be up and running pretty fast. You're pumping (sorry, not sure about THAT image) quite early. And often . With the right terrain, 2 or even 3 core pump cities, each requiring a 60-shield investment, probably beats out the Pyramids in terms of the effect on early game REX and consolidation.

The Pyramids requires devoting a powerful city to producing 400 shields (in other words, 40 turns of a 10spt city) early in the game. Instead, that city could punch out a granary and start contributing to your REX.

I don't know... I admit that I may have this wrong, but I often feel that the Pyramids aren't worth the investment of building yourself.

edit: if, however, I was to find a high-production city nearby that wasn't pump-capable (say a city with a bundle of bonus grassland, but no bonus food sources), that city could clearly take a shot at the Pyramids without really interfering with my REX.

What I'm on about is the idea of using a pump-capable city on wonder building early in the game. If that's not an issue, then hell, no problemo.

-Arrian

[Mountain Sage]

Arrian,
Scandinavia is seafaring, militaristic.

Krill,
No editor, it was my 4th try...

Dominae,
The Pyramids?
Well, maybe YOU'll manage.

Ducki,
Sorry about highjacking your thread on Emperor games.

Now, bring in more details, as to compare them with mine. You should play some turns as to get the 'feeling' of the game.

Thanks everybody.

[ducki]

Sorry about highjacking your thread on Emperor games

You must have missed the part where I did the original threadjack and later where I indemnified any other threadjacking. I should edit the first post to that effect, I guess.

[ducki]

Very easy 4-turn pump

This one has a lot of leeway if you're having trouble getting the hang of it. Don't forget that, as an Agricultural civ, the city will give you an extra food per turn if founded on the river.
Emperor level.

[ducki]

and a screen

Like I said, easy to get 4-turn settlers.

Maybe the veterans here can show us the most optimal way to develop this town, as the way I did it, I had about 4 wasted shields per settler, even MMing to the fish or an irrigated riverside plains from time to time. Probably should have mined the cow or something you normally don't do for a pump.


Edit: Just so you guys don't think I'm constantly restarting for awesome starts like this, I'm actually finding these while actually hoping for a sub-optimal start to actually test my mettle. If I ever find one, maybe I'll make a post and call it "So Very Derivative.... of Ducki"