Scientific Leader at 1830 BC. Which Wonder?

[Artifex]

Playing as the Byzantines (Scientific, Seafaring)

Pyramids? Temple of Artemis? Or save for Sun Tzu's?

Temple of Artemis looks the best to me. I think I am on a continent but still have a ways to explore..so I am not sure how much space I have.

What do you think is best?

[Arrian]

PYRAMIDS!!!

Pop is power. Growth is good. Be fruitful, and multiply.

-Arrian

[Rhothaerill]

Pyramids!! What Arrian said!!

My first Conquests game I received an SGL on my first tech at around 2700bc or so. Saved it until I could get masonry and rushed the Pyramids. Bam, huge expansion!

[Artifex]

BTW I am playing on Emperor so happiness can be a problem.

Still think I should build Pyramids?

[Arrian]

Yes.

Happiness is manageable. The luxury slider works really well. Or just build more workers (never a bad idea).

Why do you want Artemis? Happiness? Bah, the damn thing goes obselete in the middle ages (Theology?) and *poof* your temples disappear. Culture? Build libraries, you're scientific.

-Arrian

[ducki]

Being very new to Emperor, I'd have to agree on the Pyramids. On Monarch I'd probably save it for something else(since they're so rare), but growth and expansion is the key, I think.

[Artifex]

The Temples go *poof*? In that case Artemis is a very weak wonder. I guessed that existing temples stayed but new ones wouldn't appear when it went obsolete. I haven't used it so i guessed it would be that way. So much for that wonder then.

[jshelr]

Got any ivory?? Or, can you trade for it??

[Artifex]

No Ivory. I would think pyramids would be a better rush than Zeus anyway..especially at 400 shields vs 200.

But the Ancient Cav is nice no doubt.

[vmxa1]

I agree with Arrain as long as you do not have a civ that it will trigger a GA. The only ancient SGL I had and got excited and rush the Pyramid and boom a GA. I would not have done that if I was paying attention. I may have done it, but would have waited for a few more cities and mines.

[Cerbykins]

Pyramids Pyramids Pyramids
This is a chance to have your entire civ grow at an unrivalled rate. Extra growth = extra food/resources/commerce = even more growth

[Theseus]

Pyramids = Food Power.

No brainer.

[okblacke]

Originally posted by Artifex
The Temples go *poof*? In that case Artemis is a very weak wonder. I guessed that existing temples stayed but new ones wouldn't appear when it went obsolete. I haven't used it so i guessed it would be that way. So much for that wonder then.

Pre-patch, Artemis wiped out your existing temples when built so that not only did it stop working at (education?) you lost any you had built prior. As of the 1.2 Beta your existing temples remain after Artemis is obsolete.

But even pre-patch, I found it incredibly useful when playing the Mongols. I would conquer a town and that town immediately began generating culture. Within a few moves, it had expanded, greatly facilitating my conquest.

Artemis was the huntress, eh?

[ok]

Herodotus' Seven Wonders, by the way, were: Pyramid, Lighthouse, Library, Zeus, Artemis, Mausoleum and Colossus.

[Theseus]

Whoa, with the BETA, Artemis-Temples remain?

Pyramids AND Artemis then...

(I can dream)

[Catt]

Originally posted by Theseus
Whoa, with the BETA, Artemis-Temples remain?

Nope - they disappear. Some reported that manually-built temples, completed before Artemis, also disappeared when Artemis expired, which would seem to be a full-fledged bug, but apparently that has been addressed by the 1.12 BETA patch.

Catt