Conquest included PTW, but guess what!??

[Shogun Gunner]

How much better is the performance when you use a program to image the entire CD onto your hard drive?

If the performance is better, I think I'll buy Alcohol 120 (is that the name) or some similiar program.

[CanuckSoldier]

Well I can say for a fact(since I've done it) that if you remove all previous Civ3/PTW installs and delete the leftover folders. And do a fresh install of Civ3(no patches required) and C3C and then create a short cut on your desktop to the ptw EXE it WILL ask for the C3C disk to play PTW.

I strongly recommend that you do this after saving all your D/L'd scenarios ofcourse.

CS

[LordVipper]

alcohol 120%

[CanuckSoldier]

I use Daemon Tools, and it's free.

CS

[bongo]

ThePlagueRat , with a fast comp I doubt you will note the difference when using cd-image software. If you're low on memory already, it will get worse.

[Jaguar]

We're so dedicated that we install Civ in 3 or 4 locations.

[ThePlagueRat]

About that no-cd patch for PTW, I said that because it would be great if they made one since it's easier for us who bought C3C to play on a LAN or internet with other people who has PTW. Dissident didn't understand this, I guess?

Paradox did it with some of their games, but I guess Infogrames are so greedy they will have morons go buying PTW-cd's in these days, although it is included on the C3C-cd. I was asking for a legal no-cd patch for PTW!

[WhiteBandit]

There are no-cd patches around. You just have to look for them. Everyone goes crazy because they automatically think "PIRACY!" :-/ Safedisc checkins my cd-rom drive every few minutes and SLOWs the computer down. It's annoying and detracts from the game.

One option you can do (which I do) if you have loads of hard drive space, is just rip the CD image to your hard drive. Granted, this takes up over 700mb per disc. But there are programs you can use to mount the image as a virtual drive, among them: Daemon Tools, Alcohol 120 and CloneCD.

For most though, this is completely impractical as it "wastes" huge amounts of space.

[CanuckSoldier]

Well, I play C3C or PTW fine with the CD out after the initial check, my game has never checked for the CD more than once.

I'm no fan of SafeCast for sure, but legaly you only bought a single copy of Civ and only can legally install it on one computer. So to play a game of Civ on a LAN does require you to buy multiple copies, if you disagree with Atari's sales policies then don't buy the game.

CS

[bongo]

It's just a matter of convenience. As all my PBEMs are ptw, I can leave my ptw cd at work, my c3c cd at home and play my turns when they arrive without carrying the cd around at all times.

I plan to take part in a c3c PBEM soon and then I have to carry a cd around again


Oh, you might want to stay away from the hacker-made 'no-cd' patch. Anyone with the skills to move copy-protection from a game can easily add some nasty stuff to it as well(think viruses, trojans, backdoors or worse)

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by bongo

Oh, you might want to stay away from the hacker-made 'no-cd' patch. Anyone with the skills to move copy-protection from a game can easily add some nasty stuff to it as well(think viruses, trojans, backdoors or worse)

I don't really see this as an issue, but remember that if you are playing with some unofficial crack, it could introduce some OTHER bug that could end with your game crashing irrecoverably. Cracks are by their very nature messy, and made mostly by people without full access to the code used. Think propping up that wall with a few pieces of wood instead of spending the money for the builder to fix it properly. It may work fine, but there is always the risk of the roof tumbling on you, and probably when you least expect it.

[ThePlagueRat]

Ok, in the beginning I could use the C3C-cd to play PTW.
But after installing the latest PTW patch, the computer asked me to insert a PTW-cd. Awful thing right? 'cause it's not possible to play PTW on the net without the patch...

[CanuckSoldier]

You didn't need to patch the C3C version of PTW, it is already at 1.27. I'd do a fresh install of C3C and you'll be back to just using the C3C disk.

CS

[ThePlagueRat]

That's great Canuck... thank you!
Silly me, didn't know.

I'll just hope the other PTW players uses 1.27 then....

[vmxa1]

CivIII and PTW are at their final levels with C3C. At least your partners can always get 1.27F if they don't have it already.