Emperor games C3C: how to improve your skills

[Aqualung71]

vmxa1......ah yes of course....I'm in the RR phase and chopped down a forest to mine and railroad, as RR'ing a forest square does nothing.

Do you ever sleep, or is it morning where you are (like me)? You always seem to be lurking to give your opinion or much needed advice! Thanks.

[Aqualung71]

1400AD:

Made sure I secured US by dumping a bunch of foreign workers into my Shakespeare, built factory and coal plant, so now have a super-city pre-sanitation ready to build Hoovers, which is being set-up via a pre-build. This new Shakespeare is pretty powerful, especially as it also happens to keep all those extra citizens happy!

Also got ToE progressing steadily. 1 turn away from Atomic Theory, no-one else has progressed past Steam Power/Medicine yet. The Hittites somehow got Nationalism, so I'm getting ready to trade Industrialisation and Electricity for it plus a bunch of gpt that will assist my push towards Electronics....although I'm in 2 minds since Replaceable Parts is within reach which sort of makes Nationalism a waste of time if you get rubber.

On the diplomatic front, the arrogant Byzantines declared war because I refused to give them Industrialisation for free (like, as if!)....so they're now dropping a brave cavalry unit on my coast every few turns to help improve my military's experience levels. Go figure!

After reviewing the map I've decided the Byzantines aren't worth pursuing for now. Instead I'm building up my Galleons and Cavalry for a two-pronged cavalry assault on the Inca's, hopefully before they get too many Riflemen, to secure their sources of spices and incenses, which seem to be pretty rare on this map.

[Aqualung71]

1600AD:

Time for a lunch break. Have secured those 2 colonies on the Inca mainland. Inca's agreed to peace after about 3 turns, so they knew they had no chance. They were throwing their Cavalry against my Infantry fortified behind walls!! Then my spies told me they only had 13 Cavalry in their entire empire anyway. After I gave them peace, they wandered into my territory again and declared war when I told them to leave. Oh well, here we go again. Airports are now in place, so my biggest decision now is whether to send over Cavalry to take over their continent, or wait until the Tanks start rolling off the production lines.

Nearest Civs are 6 techs behind - Byzantine and the very generous Hittites who while they remain furious with em, are still happy to give me 170gpt every now and then just to stay 6 techs behind. Of course, I'm running the risk of them taking the techs then declaring war, but it's not such a big deal at this point. I need the extra gpt to keep my research rate up, as my increasing military is starting to hurt me in terms of unit cost. Starting to seriously consider a move to Democracy.

Can anyone recall offhand what the exact unit costs are in Republic vc Democracy?

Workers have been standing around drinking coffee and smoking ever since they completed the rail network. I haven't bothered with Sanitation (for the first time I can ever recall, since I usually space my cities a lot further apart!), so there's no need to re-irrigate the mines to get the pop growing again.

Wonder building is all done for now of course - I got them all in Industrial. Next flurry will be at the start of Modern, but by that time the Spapceship will be just around the corner. Cruising now, and there's nothing the AI can do about it!

Cheers!

[Cerbykins]

Republic, 2gpt per extra unit:

Town = 1 free unit
City = 3 free units
Metro = 4 free units

Democracy, 1gpt per unit. No free support.

Time to switch is when on average, you're paying a fair bit over 1gpt per unit (no need to remember much else)

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by Thriller
Do you ever sleep, or is it morning where you are (like me)? You always seem to be lurking to give your opinion or much needed advice! Thanks.

I tend to go to the board after I get up. Then at lunch and then dinner. Maybe once during the evening and befoe I hit it for the night. I have all day, while she who must be obeyed is at work.

[Aqualung71]

So you're in an Asian time-zone like me? I take it you don't work, or work from home?

[Aqualung71]

Cerby, thanks....I know I've seen that somewhere on the boards before, but I couldn't find it with a search.

The switch to Democracy will probably be moot in this game, since the SpaceRace victory isn't that far away.

[Aqualung71]

1720AD:

After the Inca's declared war on me a 3rd time for not wanting to leave my territory when asked, I decided to teach them a lesson they would never forget. Have now pretty much taken over their entire continent with my 2 tank armies and a bunch of tank and infantry support. They never knew what hit them.

Just got Fission and have scored 3 nice little Uranium deposits. Started some pre-builds for the UN and Manhattan Project, so am switching to them now. Will now go for Computers and secure SETI for the trifecta of science wonders, then push towards the spaceship parts. Can't be bothered invading the Byzantines now - they and the Hittites are still 6 techs behind and will remain so.

Enriquillo, you reported that Byzantine had around 87K culture in the mid-1800’s. This amazes me. By comparison, by 1720AD I have captured every wonder since the middle-ages and am only sitting at around 50K culture! Byantines are second at 43K.

On to victory!

[Aqualung71]

1886AD: GAME OVER

SpaceRace victory. Hittites and Byzantines hadn't even made the modern era. Never built a single MI or MA. They just sat back and watched and didn't even declare war on me - amazing. Also interesting how that culture piles on in the last 100 turns - I ended up with about 97,000, almost a culture victory.

Going to bed now - some thoughts tomorrow maybe.

Cheers!

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by Thriller
So you're in an Asian time-zone like me? I take it you don't work, or work from home?

See the flag and the city/state? California Pacific time zone.
Lost my job after 14 years in 2001 and took a few ears off. I may go back to work, not sure.

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by Thriller
1886AD: GAME OVER

Also interesting how that culture piles on in the last 100 turns - I ended up with about 97,000, almost a culture victory.

Cheers!

Congrats, BTW 100k must also be twice the next civ. So if any has over 50k.......

[Enriquillo]

About to start where I left off last nite, damn job is so distracting sometimes

All my co-workers were either sick or had a day off and one them had reset all AS/400 passwords to password, or so she had informed everyone by e-mail. I guess she must have mistyped password, cause I had 4 messages waiting for me when I came in at 9am and about 20 phonecalls before 10

I feel better now, had to get that off my chest!

Anyway, back to the topic.
You asked about the Byz culture, yeah they were way ahead of me which amazed me as well as I had gotten most wonders, but the long stay in monarchy must have hurt me more then I realized.
Byz were also bombing the hell out of me, until that unfortunate day when their entire airforce got caught and they had no oil to build a new one, CHECK MATE BIATCH


They're now at over 100k but still no culture victory for them, do they need that 20k city as well? I thought it was just one of the two but I guess you need both. Better grab their capital before it hits 20k though, that would totally suck if they won culturally, so cheap.
They have no chance at all of even surviving the next 20 rounds or so, not without oil, which they ain't gonna get due to the trade embargo against them.
Luxuries is where this game is won and lost and I feel my move to deny them oil was brilliant. Lucky as well, them not having oil on their big continent but oh well.

[Aqualung71]

As vmsa1 correctly points out, the 100,000 culture vitory only works if you're at least twice your nearest rival, so if anyone else is over 50,000 you don't get it. In my case, Byzantines were about 70,000 IIRC, and my best city was still only 10,000, so a culture victory was out.

But surely you will be pretty close to the spacerace victory without having to go to the trouble of getting rid of the Byzantines from the planet?

[Cerbykins]

Actually, I'm not sure that culture rule still holds. I think the needing double in C3C has now been abandoned outright, and IN PLACE a higher total is now needed on the big maps.

Either that, or the Victory conditions screen a little misleading in the way it suggests 'Get x culture to win'

[Enriquillo]

But surely you will be pretty close to the spacerace victory without having to go to the trouble of getting rid of the Byzantines from the planet?

yeah , but where's the fun in that.


I'm not too good at this simcity style play, because I don't like it and I don't have the patience for it.
It's now 1968 and since I got fairly bored I decided to build up some tactical nukes and send 'em to Inca borders.
Just after preperations were finished Inca declared war
No explanations needed, just watch the screenie: