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Don't see repair ships or using allied harbors as being possible. How about building a "Naval Base" in neutral territory (like building an Air Base in neutral territory)? 
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Driftwood.Originally posted by skywalker
With what?
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The same way you build airbases, of course.Originally posted by skywalker
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hi ,
, great idea , but it would need some changes , ships should only get a couple hitpoint more from it as for some works it would have to return to a drydock , .....
at the same time a drydock wonder should be build , a wonder that heals ships in one turn ( small wonder ) and gives some extra cash to the city its build in , ....
and while we are at sea , canals
and the idea about refueling would indeed be nice also , .....
but for all of that , its either the next XP or civ IV , ......
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I see drydocks as something that is integral to harbors (due to their repair capability). Canals (like Panama and Suez) sound like a great idea! It would probably take workers a long time to lay them down but it is also something I'd like to see in the future.
(I'm already thinking of offensive and defensive strategies with canal building...
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repair ships are a bad idea.
Look at ships like the Cole, and the USS Liberty (blasted apart by the Israelis). They had to be towed to shipyards in Spain and such.
Thus, the only logical solution would be to have friendly cities repair ships ala Civ2. Civ2 was way ahead of its time here.Comment
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There is always the question about game-balance and the AI not being able to cope with it and such but generally I'm in favour of the idea.
It's just so more convenient to repair your ship in a friendly harbor than building/capturing a city yourself.Don't eat the yellow snow.Comment
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On water?Originally posted by Vince278
The same way you build airbases, of course.
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Skywalker, I think Vince278 was talking about neutral territory on land.
The problem I see with that is that, by the time you have many ocean-going ships all the territory is taken already.
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Ah. That would make more sense
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in my original conception of civ3, deserts, tundras, forests, and jungles were uninhabitiable. I saw a lot more open spaces in my mind.
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Originally posted by Dissident
repair ships are a bad idea.
Look at ships like the Cole, and the USS Liberty (blasted apart by the Israelis). They had to be towed to shipyards in Spain and such.
Thus, the only logical solution would be to have friendly cities repair ships ala Civ2. Civ2 was way ahead of its time here.
hi ,
what about all the other ships who can do with small repair at sea , ......
mostly used in the vietnam era , ........
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well I was in the navy. There is a limit to how much repair we can do at sea.
Look at recent history of badly damaged navy ships. They HAD to go to shipyards.
The USS Enterprise badly damaged by fire in the late 60's.
The USS Forrestal very badly damaged by fire supporting the vietnam conflict in the late 60's.
USS Liberty badly damaged by Israel. Went to Spain for repairs.
USS Cole moderately damaged by Terrorists in 2000. Had to be towed to Norfolk.
We really had NO ability to repair our ships at sea. The best we could do is shore up damaged spaces to prevent the loss of the ship and/or further damage.
There are repair teams that can fly out to the ship from SIMA's (shore intermediate maintenance activities) and from some bases in Europe. But the there is a limit to what amount of repairs they can do. Without cranes to lift huge plates of steel (and aluminum for the cruiser/destroyer/frigate type ships that use aluminum), any decent repairs cannot be done.Comment
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I should mention there are ships that are called Tenders. They are essentually repair ships. But the US navy really only used them for submarines. I guess it wasn't practical to have tenders for larger ships.
Tenders were used much more in the old days. WW2 and such.
I guess they were too expensive to maintain. I never see them anymore. Why didn't they use one for the USS Cole?
I'm checking this website
And it lists all the ships- including Tenders. But they all seem to be scrapped. I never seen one in the time I was in the navy.
I guess they were too expensive to maintain.Last edited by Dis; November 16, 2003, 17:04.Comment
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