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  • #16
    Catt,

    Oooooh, can you try something for me? Add a barb worker to a city and see what the new citizen is called. Is it given Mayan nationality?

    -Arrian
    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by GhengisFarb
      Is there a complete list of all the units with the Enslave ability?

      Are they all UUs or are there some available to all civs?
      In the Epic Game:

      Man o War -> Man o War
      Privateer -> Privateer
      Javelin Thrower -> Worker

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GhengisFarb
        This may cause me to reevaluate the civs I may want to play in the Team DemoGame.......
        Sorry, we're only playing for fun, and the Mayans were nothing close to Feudal.




        Dominae
        And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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        • #19
          Slaves look like slaves (i.e. have their own animation) now too.

          And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Arrian
            Catt,

            Oooooh, can you try something for me? Add a barb worker to a city and see what the new citizen is called. Is it given Mayan nationality?

            -Arrian
            Very strange! (I wonder if this is an intended effect)

            Adding the barb worker makes a citizen with a race identified as "A Barbarian Chiefdom." Now the strange thing: my city took a happiness hit and the cause is listed as "Stop the aggression against our mother country."

            Catt

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            • #21
              Makes sense, right? Barbs are people too!
              And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Dominae
                Makes sense, right? Barbs are people too!
                Except they don't have a mother country! (i.e., not even a named tribe -- just a barbarian chiefdom).

                I'm not complaining, BTW, I just didn't anticipate a happiness hit. How do you "stop the aggression" against barbs, anyway? Genocide?

                Catt

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                • #23
                  I think this is an intended effect to discourage adding these slaves to your cities. Otherwise, this could easily turn into an exploit.

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                  • #24
                    Wow. Thanks for that, Catt. That's pretty useful info.

                    Fascinating [/Spock]

                    -Arrian
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Catt
                      Except they don't have a mother country! (i.e., not even a named tribe -- just a barbarian chiefdom).
                      Think of a bunch of backward nomads being forced to work in mines or shelve books in libraries, all the while your expansion is encroaching their homelands. The only way to make them happy again is to let them go free (and like that's going to happen!), or way until they've been fully assimilated.


                      Dominae
                      And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Dominae


                        Sorry, we're only playing for fun, and the Mayans were nothing close to Feudal.
                        Right! Back to the Dutch.

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                        • #27
                          what happens when you join barbo workers to a city? do they effect war weariness? do they impact culture flips in any way?
                          "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                          - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                          • #28
                            Joining barb slaves into your city must be exactly the same as joining slaves of any other civ with which you are at war.

                            Assuming that's the case, there is no effect on war weariness, as this is not nationality-specific. It affects all your citizens equally.

                            There is no also effect on flips to other civs, and I'm sure your cities can't flip to the barbs, as barbs have no capital and no culture.

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                            • #29
                              Sounds like what happened to the Roman Empire in RL....
                              Consul.

                              Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                              • #30
                                barb farming for workers is great fun. especially as the aztecs in the discovery scenario, great for culture boosts. in that scenario, all 3 am civs, az, inca, maya can do this.

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