Gamespot's C3C civilization profiles

[Stuie]

Last official word was that Babylon's traits have not changed. Mere's post on the subject:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=2394091#post2394091

[sabrewolf]

what are the starting techs for the 2 new traits?

agricultural : pottery (faster growth)?
seafaring : bronze working (because colossus also has increased commerce)?

[Louis XXIV]

Seafaring starts with Alphabet (the Curragh scout ship comes with Alphabet)

Pottery is right for Agricultural, though

[Stuie]

Actually, the starting techs cannot be neatly tied to a specific trait any more because there are now eight traits and only seven tier one techs. Thus, there will be some overlap.

For instance, Commercial gives you alphabet, and Seafaring gives you Alphabet, so a Seafaring/Commercial Civ needs to get some other tech as well.

[Stuie]

Oh, and Sumer definitely will be starting with The Wheel, or else Firaxis will have some explaining to do.

[joncnunn]

Perhaps one traight starts with a level 2 tech?

Originally posted by Stuie
Actually, the starting techs cannot be neatly tied to a specific trait any more because there are now eight traits and only seven tier one techs. Thus, there will be some overlap.

For instance, Commercial gives you alphabet, and Seafaring gives you Alphabet, so a Seafaring/Commercial Civ needs to get some other tech as well.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Can we come up with another level one tech?

[Xorbon]

Maybe starting techs could be assigned on an individual basis for each civ instead of being linked to civ traits.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Xorbon
Maybe starting techs could be assigned on an individual basis for each civ instead of being linked to civ traits.

I thought they were.

[WarpStorm]

They are. Look in the editor. Traits actually give no techs.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure, they could have changed it with Conquests.

[Louis XXIV]

Although traits don't technicaly determine traits, in the original game all Exp civs start with Pottery, all Ind civs start with Masonry, all sci civs start with BW, all rel civs start with CB, all com civs start with Alphabet, and all mil civs start with WC (with the exception of Japan, which gets the Wheel)

So far, in conquests: All the Seafaring civs have Alphabet. It is likely that the English (Commercial, Seafaring) will keep their old techs (Alphabet, Pottery). The 2 mentioned Agricultural civs (Netherlands, Inca) have Pottery. Since the Inca are Agr, Exp, they have Masonry as well as Pottery (since both Exp and Agr probably give you Pottery).

[Xorbon]

I know that traits don't directly determine what tech(s) a civ gets. I've seen the editor before. What I meant was, the designers could choose techs for each civ without taking into account that civ's traits. In other words, starting techs could be independent of civ traits.

I can't see them doing that though, since that would devalue the point of having distinct traits...wouldn't it?

[Novaya Havoc]

Do you think we can expect a Civ Profile on Austria? ;D

-Ben

[Louis XXIV]

My guess is probably not