Conquests and PTW

[kermit_the_frog]

i for one will have both exspansion packs. The thing is that PTW civs come only in PTW and Counquests civs onley in Conquests and was wondering if i could play the people that onley have PTW or Onley conquests when i play online, or they could play me.

[Louis XXIV]

Conquests has both Conquests civs and PTW civs (and everything else from PTW)

You can play players from either version, but you can't use the new rules added for Conquest when playing a player who uses PTW.

Clear things up?

[kermit_the_frog]

thanks m8.

one more question, Can the people with onley conquest use PTW civs and the people with onley PTW use conquest civs?

[Panag]

Originally posted by kermit_the_frog
thanks m8.

one more question, Can the people with onley conquest use PTW civs and the people with onley PTW use conquest civs?

hi ,

c3c people can use all the options from ptw , ptw people cant use the options from c3c , .......

have a nice day

[Louis XXIV]

It makes sense, that the people who have PTW only don't get to play Conquest for free.

Any of the new rules (Enslavement, Disasters, etc) won't be availible to a player with just Play the World

[kermit_the_frog]

it isnt fear that the conquest people get the PTW civs and rules

[Tassadar500]

Actually it is fair. It would be the stupidest thing if there were only Conquest stuff in there since PTW has already been released.

[Panag]

Originally posted by kermit_the_frog
it isnt fear that the conquest people get the PTW civs and rules

hi ,

thats why c3c is an other XP , an other layer of new stuff , ......

you dont buy a model 2002 car and then take into the shop a year later to ask to exchenge it for a newer model , ......

have a nice day

[The Pioneer]

It is still a little unfair for the people who went out and bought PTW. Although, in case of Civ and Sid I do not hold it against them, since they bring out the best of games.

So long...

[dexters]

Originally posted by Nuclear Master
Actually it is fair. It would be the stupidest thing if there were only Conquest stuff in there since PTW has already been released.

I have to differ with you on this.

PTW was a disaster of a release and ATARI is trying to bury it by essentially re-releasing it along with the new context in Conquests.

This might be an increadibly great deal for those who held off with PTW, and for those of us who don't care for paying another $30 for content we thought we paid for last year, but for people like me, starvign college students, spending $60 last year and this year, and knowing Coquests includes PTW material I paid for last year makes me want to puke at Atari.

There is no attempt to acknowledge to the people out there who will have a soon to be useless PTW CD that their purchase matters and Atari will make some concessions for these people, with rebates or just releasing a Conquests LITE with only the new content so players with PTW can upgrade.

I'm not speaking in terms of the abstract of making unreasonable demands either. EA is releasing a Sim City 4 Deluxe with the core game and expansion. In order to keep the people who bought the core game in Janaury happy and satisfied and feeling like they matter, EA priced the xpansion pack for $20 and will have a special promo offer offering $10 rebate in North America for all those who bought the xpansion pack. Essentially an additional discount and thank you for buying Sim City 4 right off the gate.

Atari may not have the financial resources EA has, but it is absurd for them to sell us a game twice and make absolutely no attempt at accomodating PTW owners. This whole past year has essentially be a paid Beta test program for PTW, where Atari profited from releasing an incomplete game and instead of paying for beta testers, they have people buy the game and beta test it for them. If they get away with this, you think they won't do it with Pirates 2?

Sid "I think we need another 6 months"
Atari "don't worry. The idiots called our consumers will buy your game NOW, because they're watering in the mouth just thinking about it. We'll hype up all the features, even the ones that don't quite work yet and have the consumers do the Q&A for us"

Sid " How much are you charging the consumers?"

Atari " Full price. In November of next year, we will then include all the 'bug' fixes , and have the art team throw in a few ship designs and textures, and we'll call it Pirates 2 - Global Expedition and sell the core game and the new content back to them at full price yet again"

[Panag]

Originally posted by The Pioneer
It is still a little unfair for the people who went out and bought PTW. Although, in case of Civ and Sid I do not hold it against them, since they bring out the best of games.

So long...

hi ,

what the heck is unfair about it , ......


many of you dont know this but originally there was not even an other XP planned , ......

so , ones again , what the heck is unfair about it , ..........


have a nice day

[dexters]

Originally posted by panag



hi ,

what the heck is unfair about it , ......


many of you dont know this but originally there was not even an other XP planned , ......

so , ones again , what the heck is unfair about it , ..........


have a nice day

So we should be thankful to Atari for another XP? Are you insane? And why was there another xp?

PTW sold well. Atari saw more $$$.

I'm not thankful for this XP when the very reason this f'ing XP is being made, PTW's good sales, is being ignored.

Atari has made absolutely no concessions to the people that made this third XP possible. And you of all people panag, the happy Civver who is dancing for this third XP should thank the rest of the Civ community who bought PTW for making tihs one possible.

[Panag]

Originally posted by dexters


So we should be thankful to Atari for another XP? Are you insane? And why was there another xp?

PTW sold well. Atari saw more $$$.

I'm not thankful for this XP when the very reason this f'ing XP is being made, PTW's good sales, is being ignored.

Atari has made absolutely no concessions to the people that made this third XP possible. And you of all people panag, the happy Civver who is dancing for this third XP should thank the rest of the Civ community who bought PTW for making tihs one possible.

one you have all the facts you can start to trow mud , ...... atari had nothing to do with the second XP , .......

as for the PTW sales , ones again get your facts , ......

and switch disk , this one start to get boring , .....

there are plenty of sites where you can post your feelings , these sites where created only for that purpose , .......

[G'Kar]

and have a nice day!

[Sheik]

It seems fair to me that Conquests will include the PTW content. I bought PTW and I still think was a good purchase. Just because I will end up paying for PTW content twice doesn't mean I have to resent those who will be getting everything for the Conquests price. The more content the better. I don't know about the rest of you but I have gotten a lot of enjoyment out of PTW and can't wait for the new XP.