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  • Originally posted by Jimmywax
    Does anyone know if the Kittyhawk had the teeth like it's American cousin. I am having a hell of a time finding any pictures of them in Aussie service. I have found a couple of pics of Brit P-40's, is it safe to assume they would have the same color scheme? Case I am looking in your direction.
    The shark mouth and eyes scheme was devised by one of the British squadrons flying P-40s in N. Africa, and was then copied by the Flying Tigers. Don't know if the Aussies copied it as well. As for the cammo scheme - the Brits only used the P-40 in N. Africa IIRC and so the camo scheme was sand/earth brown which would not have been used by Australian squadrons in the Pacific.

    EDIT: I hadn't let the page load the pic you posted above

    Looks like the Australians used standard Brit pre1943 temperate camo of dark earth / dark green...
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    • I'll get on that tonight, and post it tomorrow, Jimmy!

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      • Sweet thanks Curt!

        @ Fairline or anyone else who knows: The p-40 used by the British in N. Africa and the AVG was the original Tomahawk right. With the Kittyhawk later being used by the Aussie forces. I found one site that said the improved powerplant of the later Kittyhawk allowed it's nose to be shortened. Can anyone else confirm this, I have only found it on one site and all of my books are still in boxes about three hundred miles away (even though I moved like six months ago, damn! Am I lazy or what).
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        • Hello all, this is a question about unit recolouring. I was wondering if there is a proper way to take this fabulous battleship unit from Curt's Dictator and recolour it within the range of the limited Civ II pallet so that it appears to be a bright golden colour.

          I have tried several unsuccessful methods to date, but I am positive that there is a way to do it right without having sloppy colour substitution issues. This is what I have been able to do so far, I hope somebody out there can show me the propper method. I believe I heard there is a method you can use involving Paint Shop Pro or PSP, but as a strict Photoshop man myself I'm not familiar with it.

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            • Originally posted by fairline
              The shark mouth and eyes scheme was devised by one of the British squadrons flying P-40s in N. Africa, and was then copied by the Flying Tigers. Don't know if the Aussies copied it as well. As for the cammo scheme - the Brits only used the P-40 in N. Africa IIRC and so the camo scheme was sand/earth brown which would not have been used by Australian squadrons in the Pacific.
              While a few Australian squadrons used the shark mouth, I don't think that it was at all common. Only a few aircraft in the pictures of P-40s on the Australian War Memorial's huge database of photos ( www.awm.gov.au/database/collection.asp ) has a Sharks mouth. Notably, all the pictures were taken in the Middle East, and none of the aircraft in the Pacific have a sharks mouth.

              The attached painting by a offical Australian war artist may be of some help. It depicts P-40s based in New Guinea in late 1942.
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              • @ Sarsstock:

                Recolouring a unit can be a painful process, excpecially when a unit is fromed by several elements with a unique color (or gradient) each. In the case of this battleship you have to isolate the deck, the plane and the terminal part of the smoke-funnels just as you did with the water. If you have enough skill with Photoshop you can do it manually or with the Color Range selecting tool. Then you can color your image (with the hue/saturation command) and convert it to the civ2 palette. This is the most delicate moment since you will probably have some pixels converted to a weird color. Select them and replace with the most similar colour in the civ2 palette. But.....why do you need a golden battleship ?

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                • @ Justinianum: Why? Mmmmaybe it´s his PRECIOUS

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                  • For JimmyWax!

                    My attempts at the P-40 Warhawk, with Shark-Mouth motif, and in tropic camo mode!

                    I also added a Ki-84 Hayate for them to play with!

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                    • Nice, Curt. Would you be interested in revisiting some of the American naval aviation? There were some good ones posted fairly recently, but I think their proportions were out somewhat.
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                      • What do you have in mind, Tech?
                        Gimme a link or a list of what you need...

                        If it is in ToT, I can give it a shot!

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                        • Wildcat
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                          ToT would be OK with me. Thanks.
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                          • Gimme a fortnight (at the most) and I will deliver them all within that timescale!

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                            • Originally posted by techumseh
                              ToT would be OK with me. Thanks.


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                              • I probably can fling that crate in too...

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