Scenario League Resources

[McMonkey]

Would anybody have any objections to me reorganizing the resources section of the SL wiki?

I have started to add Fairline's units and would like to put the rest of the resources into some sort of order and start to add stuff to it.

I would start by pulling complete sets off the Graphics threads here and uploading them onto the SL page. If anyone has any collections to add then post them on the main resources page and I will transfer them to the relevent section. Obviously once all the sections are built then feel free to put them in the relevent folder yourself!

One thing I am a bit concerned about is the etiquete of uploading peoples work. My view would be that if they have posted them in the Graphics thread for general use then they would be fine to put on the SL wiki. Can anyone give me a reason against this, if so let me know before I put my foot in it

[kobayashi]

Good idea. I think anything found in the graphics thread is fair game for upload to the S-League website.

I think it would be best to consolidate the unit collections into sets of 100 or something. Like WWII(1), WWII(2) etc. Otherwise the wiki site would end up being just as unwieldly as the graphics threads.

[McMonkey]

Thats cool. I have thousands of units and cities that I can group together into relevant categories and start to upload. The SL Wiki is such a handy tool!

[McMonkey]

I have started sorting out all the graphics I have collected over the years into groups and plan to post them in the Scenario League resources section under "Units"!

These compilations represent my own personal taste in graphics and are not compilations of all graphics created. If anyone else wants to add work that they think is worthwhile then feel free. Where possible though I think it is best to group them together into compilations lake the one in the link below:

Example Section - Industrial Revolution

You can use this as a template. If I have missed any amazing units out that you think should be added to one of the compilations then send me a copy and I will add them and re-post the bitmap.

At the moment I am in the process of compiling and working out signatures, I will upload the files as they are ready. At the moment the Industrial Revolution section acts as an example. In the ancient section are some of Fairline's 'Enemies of Rome' units for ToT. Where I can I will leave the ToT style compilations in their original format and include the bitmap in a zipped file.

Hope you find these compilations as useful as I do

[kobayashi]

Its a very nice set of units you've posted (and i mean this as a compliment) but I'm not quite sure what you intended in terms of organization. I think you need to implement a method where the graphic collections can grow incremetally through the contributions of members.

For example, under Ancient Ages Units, the 3 current sections (I think you mean them to be sections but I'm not sure, you're using # instead of ==x==) you have are Romans, Repubican Roman Enemies, Imperial Roman enemies. If someone else had Roman units, should they append them to the current section or create a new section for themselves. Perhaps you're better off naming the page 'Fairline's Roman Units' and then having a master page like the Tips section.

Honestly, I haven't any answer to my own question. I think you've put together a fantastic collection already. Why don't you go one step further and propose a framework to keep the units neatly organized as the collection grows.

[McMonkey]

At the moment I am playing it by ear and seeing what happens, what people want. I would be happy to act as caretaker and people can upload files and I will organize them into a framework. Any smaller files can be added into the bigger collections.

The main thing I think that needs to happen is for the units to be put together in compilations. Other than that I am willing to let people post what they want there or send me the files to add. Too many rules may put people off!

I have started compiling these units to make it easier to find them when I start creating a scenario. I hope designers will find them useful too. I also love finding great new units and I thought this is another way to make sure they are not lost and hopefully get used one day in a scenario or mod!

[McMonkey]

Each era now has at least one compilation to show how it may look in the future. I think this section of the scenario League can work alongside the Graphics Creation threads here. I have enjoyed trawling through all the back pages of graphics but the result is many folders full of odds and sods. By compiling them I believe they become more accessible and more likely to see the light of day in a scenario one day

This section is going to be an ongoing work in progress as in addition to the vast backlog of graphics there are new ones being created all the time!

Unit graphics section at the Scenario League

[fairline]

Good work Werd, with a few reservations

In filling in the primary pink background colour on most units, you have removed the essential tile boundary marker which subsequent editors may wish to use. You've also lost a couple of sigs, or added the wrong ones to some units.

You may wish to remove Catfish's units which have been reserved for his LOTR scenario (check his website for which units are out of bounds).

There seem to be a lot of duplications (many of my WW1 planes seem to occur 3 or 4 times in the same unit set)

[McMonkey]

Re: Sigs
I have tried to keep all the sigs, however a lot of the units were collected a long time ago before I was aware of their importance. If you can let me know which ones need amending I will add them back on.
The whole project is going to be an ongoing work in progress and I will be updating the files that are already uploaded as I sort them out more, this includes adding missing signatures and removing the duplicates as well as putting the units into logical groups and orders.

Re: Pink background
I have always hated the pink background as, for me personally it make the units hard to see clearly. I much prefer a darker background. If anyone wants to use the units and needs the tile boundary marker surely they can add it back using paint (I will add a template) all they then need to do is copy the unit onto the template.
Again they will need to try and keep the signatures. This can be a bit tricky as some units have been modified so many times.

I know the bottom tile boundary marker is important as anything below it gets chopped off. Does the top part of the marker have any effect?

Catfish's units have been removed, I did not realise they were reserved.

Sorry if I have trod on any toes. I only want to make the process of scenario making easier for myself and thought others would find it useful to have all the superb units grouped together in one place. As I said before this is still in the development stages and there are bound to be a few teething troubles

EDIT: I see the problem with the pink background now! I wonder if there is an easy way to sort it out. I rather feel thay sods law would stipulate not!

[himasaram]

The Catfish units that are out of limits are the five hobbits, two rangers, one warrior with horn, one ent, one nazgul, and one dwarf: all in a row.

(See units marked with a red 'R' here: http://users.tpg.com.au/jpwbeest/jp_units.htm )

[McMonkey]

Thanks. I will sort them out and re-upload them at some point

[fairline]

No toes trodden on Werd old bean - you're doing a useful job with the resources. I just thought I'd make you aware of the 'reserved' status of some of Catfish's LOTR units.

[McMonkey]

Thats cool old stick

Any answer to the "what does the top of the pink thingy does?" question?

Obviously by thingy I mean tile boundary marker

If it is just the bottom part that has an effect I am sure I can sort the files out without a major ammount of hastle. The top part is another story!

[civ2units]

I saw that all units are in MGE, maybe is it possible to post also the TOT units?

If you wish, I would like to do this from time to time.

[McMonkey]

By all means, feel free to post them! The SL Wiki page is there for everyone to add to. I was just trying to bring some order to a neglected area and I would be very happy to see others help build it up.

The only thing I would suggest is to try and post whole collections so that it doesn't get messy. There are no rules though.

I have added some ToT graphics in the Ancient thread and intend to put some of the Units files from Scenarios such as Frederick the Great in unmolested as I can see little to gain from reorganizing them.

The MGE ones I have posted already are just the tip of the iceberg, I hope to post many more collections from all eras and from a wide range of designers. The fact that most of the ones I have posted so far are by Fairline is just a reflection of the quantity and quality of his work. There are also collections by BeBro, Harlan Thomson, CurtSibling, Typhoon and so on...

One thing I need to do is add the bitmaps in zipped files. Initially I was just testing the waters to see if there was a call for such a section
If anyone uploads a zipped file then remember to change the format from Image to Media!