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  • For my next trick, er, scenario...

    I know that it's best to work on one project at a time, and US Civil War 2013 has a way to go before it's complete, but I was thinking of several potential Civ II scenarios I might make...
    • Alternate 1920s/30s (A): An alternate past where the US entered World War I on the Allied side, as historically happened, but Germany still managed to win. As part of the victory (in some way or another), Mexico gets what Germany promised it in the "Zimmerman telegram" - the US states of Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico (and maybe a good chunk of California.) There may or may not be a Mormon buffer state in between Meixco and the Union (capitaled, of course, in Salt Lake City.) The scenario, which would take place sometime after World War I (somewhere in the '20s or '30s) would be in North America and would be about the goings-on in the place, including, of course, the possibility of a US campaign to tkae its old territories by force.
    • Alternate 1920s/30s (B): The same as above, but on a global scale, including a defeated France and Britain, Communist Russia, a large colonial German Empire (including many British and French territories taken), and so forth.
    • Venezuela/Guiana, 1896: In 1895-96, Venezuela and Britain (who owned the colony of British Guiana) nearly engaged in war over a territorial dispute in Guiana. Had war broken out, the United States would probably have entered the war on the Venezuelans' side. As it turned out, the US and Britain came to terms, and war was averted. The scenario would be about what if it the war happened.
    • Israel, 1948: The Israeli War for Independence. One Jewish nation against all its Arab neighbors. Historical scenario.
    • Crusades: Several centuries after Islamic forces take Jerusalem, Western Christendom decides to take it back.


    So, vote now (and, preferably, explain why you voted that way! )
    20
    Alternate 1920s/30s (A)
    15.00%
    3
    Alternate 1920s/30s (B)
    10.00%
    2
    Venezuelan/American-British/Guianan War
    10.00%
    2
    Israel 1948
    30.00%
    6
    The Crusades
    35.00%
    7
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  • #2
    We need a good Israeli war scenario - I vote for the 1948 option.

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    • #3
      Canis meus comedit . . . .

      Crusades.
      Lost in America.
      "a freaking mastermind." --Stefu
      "or a very good liar." --Stefu
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      • #4
        we already have some of those (Exile knows it well ) but...

        ... Crusade scenarios never enough
        "Dilexi iustitiam, odivi iniquitatem, propterea morior in exilio" [PAPA GREGORIUS VII +1085] - ("He amado la justicia, he odiado la iniquidad, por eso muero en exilio") - ("I loved justice, I hated unfairness, that's why I die in exile") - (J'ai aimé la justice, j'ai détesté l'iniquité, c'est pourquoi je meurs en exil") - ("Ich liebte Gerechtigkeit und hasste Ungerechtigkeit, deshalb sterbe ich im Exil")

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        • #5
          I want both Crusades AND Israel 1948!
          "Peace cannot be kept by force.
          It can only be achieved by understanding"

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          • #6
            I guess I would love to see a Crusades scenario as well!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by curtsibling
              We need a good Israeli war scenario - I vote for the 1948 option.
              Originally posted by curtsibling
              I guess I would love to see a Crusades scenario as well!


              Originally posted by Arthedain
              I want both Crusades AND Israel 1948!
              I can understand these desires...

              @ Ghost ofDisco... everybody want to turn you mad... or to charge you tons of civ-work...
              "Dilexi iustitiam, odivi iniquitatem, propterea morior in exilio" [PAPA GREGORIUS VII +1085] - ("He amado la justicia, he odiado la iniquidad, por eso muero en exilio") - ("I loved justice, I hated unfairness, that's why I die in exile") - (J'ai aimé la justice, j'ai détesté l'iniquité, c'est pourquoi je meurs en exil") - ("Ich liebte Gerechtigkeit und hasste Ungerechtigkeit, deshalb sterbe ich im Exil")

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              • #8
                well, if I think better... Venezuela-Guyana is a nice original idea, too...
                "Dilexi iustitiam, odivi iniquitatem, propterea morior in exilio" [PAPA GREGORIUS VII +1085] - ("He amado la justicia, he odiado la iniquidad, por eso muero en exilio") - ("I loved justice, I hated unfairness, that's why I die in exile") - (J'ai aimé la justice, j'ai détesté l'iniquité, c'est pourquoi je meurs en exil") - ("Ich liebte Gerechtigkeit und hasste Ungerechtigkeit, deshalb sterbe ich im Exil")

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Arthedain
                  I want both Crusades AND Israel 1948!
                  Agreed, but I chose the latter. All the Israeli-themed scenario are pretty old, no?
                  "You give a guy a crown and it goes straight to his head."
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                  • #10
                    Crusades are difficult... Bernd Brosing's Cross and Halfmoon (i translated it from German ) was nice, though I never played it until the end. One suggestion maybe, make both Israel 1848 and Crusades - which take place on the same map. Interesting would be concurrence between the crusader states or the knight orders (Johanniters, Templers). Or including the islamic assassins as an underground power.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by battosai
                      One suggestion maybe, make both Israel 1848 and Crusades - which take place on the same map. Interesting would be concurrence between the crusader states or the knight orders (Johanniters, Templers). Or including the islamic assassins as an underground power.
                      Wunderbahr/wonderful idea


                      btw, there is already a nice - and rich - scenario focusing crusades in Holy Land: "Outremer" by Heresson (3rd crusade) ... Another scenario about Crusader Kingdoms in Palestine is really too old... quite vanilla-style IIRC...


                      Last proposal... : a fictional Israelian crusade in Venezuela in the '20s/30s ???
                      "Dilexi iustitiam, odivi iniquitatem, propterea morior in exilio" [PAPA GREGORIUS VII +1085] - ("He amado la justicia, he odiado la iniquidad, por eso muero en exilio") - ("I loved justice, I hated unfairness, that's why I die in exile") - (J'ai aimé la justice, j'ai détesté l'iniquité, c'est pourquoi je meurs en exil") - ("Ich liebte Gerechtigkeit und hasste Ungerechtigkeit, deshalb sterbe ich im Exil")

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                      • #12
                        Israel ?
                        mmhh.. can be politically delicate and/or biased.. and i dont wish terrorist attack this forum then..

                        and crusade ? well..maybe this give less problem to muslim.. as they like so much to win..

                        I prefer Crusade.. and maybe to make it different.. a very TACTICAL one, depicting just the Holy Land..at Saladin time..( a great King btw.. ).. focusing on administer of land, fief, water...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Michael Daumen
                          All the Israeli-themed scenario are pretty old, no?
                          Yes, they are. However, there are few scens that can rival the Israeli desperation during the first 10-15 turns of Exodus II. BTW, there was a very interesting Exodus II Democracy game a few years ago on this forum.

                          The scen was developed in 2001 but it has aged very well.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gagliaudo
                            btw, there is already a nice - and rich - scenario focusing crusades in Holy Land: "Outremer" by Heresson (3rd crusade) ... Another scenario about Crusader Kingdoms in Palestine is really too old... quite vanilla-style IIRC...
                            Must find Outremer..
                            "Peace cannot be kept by force.
                            It can only be achieved by understanding"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Arthedain

                              Must find Outremer..
                              call Heresson for it... or ...
                              check your e-mail
                              "Dilexi iustitiam, odivi iniquitatem, propterea morior in exilio" [PAPA GREGORIUS VII +1085] - ("He amado la justicia, he odiado la iniquidad, por eso muero en exilio") - ("I loved justice, I hated unfairness, that's why I die in exile") - (J'ai aimé la justice, j'ai détesté l'iniquité, c'est pourquoi je meurs en exil") - ("Ich liebte Gerechtigkeit und hasste Ungerechtigkeit, deshalb sterbe ich im Exil")

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