US Civil War 2012 - Scenario Idea/Discussion

[yaroslav]

Ok,

I just played a complete turn only to try to speak with Canadians and got my civ2 crashed. I have debugging it a little and the problem appears to come from the tech tree (or it is triggered by it). If I replace the tech three of your rules.txt with an standard tech tree, everything seems to go fine (ie, civ2 does not crash anymore). Can you please give me access to prior alphas of this scenario so I can try to debug where the problem was introduced? Thanks in advance!

PS: You may want to make USA and Commonwealth not able to speak - Common. ask for peace in the very first turn

[GhostOfDisco]

Originally posted by yaroslav
Can you please give me access to prior alphas of this scenario so I can try to debug where the problem was introduced? Thanks in advance!

The previously released alphas are now available for download on the scenario's Sleague page. And you're welcome.

PS: You may want to make USA and Commonwealth not able to speak - Common. ask for peace in the very first turn

You did change one of the "events_#" files to "events.txt", right? (events_usa if you're playing an SP game as the Union, events_cna if you're the Commonwealth, events_normal otherwise). IIRC, all three events files do not allow the USA and Commonwealth to negotiate with each other.

[yaroslav]

Originally posted by GhostOfDisco

The previously released alphas are now available for download on the scenario's Sleague page. And you're welcome.

Thanks! I will try to do some checkings about this Canada error. Hopefully that will also fix your error!

You did change one of the "events_#" files to "events.txt", right? (events_usa if you're playing an SP game as the Union, events_cna if you're the Commonwealth, events_normal otherwise). IIRC, all three events files do not allow the USA and Commonwealth to negotiate with each other.

No, I didn´t. Thanks!

[yaroslav]

Ok, I have been debugging a lot more, and I have found out that the trouble is caused because Cathy of Russia is set as civilized... Anything that is not militarized causes the game to crash. Can you please try to set all leaders to militaristic and see whether you have the same problem with your game, please?

I am still trying to understand how can if affect the game (ie, how that militaristic/civilized flag makes civ2 to crash...)

[GhostOfDisco]

That reminds me ... I need to change her name, as having a dead Russian czarina as the Prime Minister of Canada is stretching reality/plausibility a bit too much, even for this scenario.

[GhostOfDisco]

Been playtesting as the Union (including a de-"Civilized" Canada), and after I took Chicago (around May 2013), when I tried to switch the production from UCAV to Engineer (I had caused Lansing to be razed, and I wanted to rebuild it), I got this error message:

AppName: civ2.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: civ2.exe
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 00028b40

... and then the game crashed. Don't know why.

[yaroslav]

Can you please kindly post the auto saved file for this?

[GhostOfDisco]

Here it is!

[yaroslav]

Downloaded, started to debug

[yaroslav]

For me, with alpha 15 and that last_autosave.sav, it is not failing

Could you zip the entire scenario folder and post it here so I can try to reproduce it? Anytihng else that you can comment on your setup and that may be helpful?

[GhostOfDisco]

Originally posted by yaroslav
For me, with alpha 15 and that last_autosave.sav, it is not failing

Could you zip the entire scenario folder and post it here so I can try to reproduce it? Anytihng else that you can comment on your setup and that may be helpful?

It's now on the site, minus the graphics and sound (but you can use the ones from the "previous" alpha 9)

[yaroslav]

Thanks. Hate to say this, but still with the .sav and the files in your zip, when I change the production of Chicago to Engineer, it does not crash. Am I trying to reproduce it correctly? Do you do any other action apart of setting production to settler?

[GhostOfDisco]

I dunno.

[GhostOfDisco]

Also, I'm not sure if the production change is the catalyst for the crash. In my recent playtests, the game has always seemed to crash about June 2013 or so, and I'd like to know why, and how to solve the problem.

I hope it's not the tech tree. If it is, I'll have to redo most, if not all, of the tech stuff. I can do such a thing, but still...

[GhostOfDisco]

Did a bunch of playtesting, and I thought the "crash in June 2013" bug was because I was playing MGE with the ToT CD. Looks like that's not the case. Playing as Union on Diety (or "God," as this scenario calls it), I played up to June 2013 when the game crashed and I got this message:

AppName: civ2.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: civ2.exe
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 00028b40

So, I guess the problem's still there.

On a better note, I made some new graphics for the mountain and airborne artillery (I wasn't really happy with the old ones.) I'll upload them when I have the chance. They might not be historically accurate much, and the mountain one still needs some work, but they still look good!