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    First Strike
    -Civ2 MGE scenario by Eivind IV


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    INTRO

    In the time after the second world war the victorious allies of the West and the Soviet Union respectively, grew growingly suspicios of each others' world ambitions. This in essence led to a state of 'cold war' between the former allies, resulting in an arms race like never before, involving not only conventional weapons but also nuclear weapons. From this constant state of war readiness, the world became a stage of an ideolodical battle between capitalism and communism, using means such as economic warfare and trade embargos, propaganda, xenophobia, espionage and proxy wars. The threat of mutual assured nuclear destruction made sure that no one would dear to deliver the first strike, as both sides had enough nuclear weapons to bomb each other out of existence and to make the entire planet uninhabitable. But as technology became more advanced, granting better accuracy of the delivery systems, the doctrine of first strike was developed, to degrade the enemy's nuclear forces to such an extent that the retalitatory response would involve "acceptable" losses. The possibility of a first strike weakened the peace based on the deterrence theory, and hence increased the tentions of a third world war.

    The time is 1975, where the current world tentions are at an ease, but with developing world events, and one of the superpowers in your hands, this may very well change. Will you be able to deliver the First Strike?

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    HOUSE RULES

    Generic house rules:
    1. No tech trading.
    2. No reloading!
    3. No terraforming.
    4. No rehoming of trade units.
    5. No 'square stealing' from the AI.
    6. No air protected land/sea stacks.
    7. No "freezing" of airplanes.
    8. No ship chains.
    9. No building of new cities. Only re-creating razed ones alowed.
    10. No airbases in adjecent to each other or a city.
    11. No artificial creating of ZOC with units.

    Scenario specific house rules:
    11. No bribing of units (even though impossible by physical rules, no bribing of cities).
    12. No trading of NATO with the pro-soviets, and vica verca WARPAC may not trade with the Pro-Westerners. Everyone may trade with the Non-Aligned. China may trade freely world wide.
    13. No war ships may cross straits owned by a foreign power (i.e. the Bosphorus Strait (Istanbul), Suez Canal, Panama Canal, Kiel Canal (Hamburg), Gibraltar strait, Øresund (Copenhagen) etc.).
    14. Exeptions to poxy wars: All non aligned cities, Chile, Spain, Romania, North Africa and the Middle East, Cuba, Vietnam, Taiwan and N. Korea.

    Unit house rules
    15. No Jet bombers and Long Range Bombers on Carriers.
    16. No more than 5 units on the regular Aircraft Carrier and maximum 15 on the NP supercarrier.
    17. No ICBMs on Aircraft Carriers.
    18. No ballistic missiles on submarines until you've researched "Submarine-Based Nukes". And subs may not carry ICBMs, only MRBMs and Cruise Missiles.
    19. No "flying" of missiles from sub to sub, carrier to carrier, or city to ship. Missiles must be loaded inside a coastal city.

    Diplomatic house rules
    20. Every civ may sneak attack, but only with conventional weapons. Nuclear weapons may first be used on the second war turn.
    21. NATO can only declare war if both NATO civs agree.
    22. China may only align themself in a ww3 situation, and only with the defender
    23. No civs may attack the non aligned, unless there's ww3 situation.
    24. WARPAC can not declare war on the pro Soviet civ and vice verca NATO may not declare war on the pro Western civ.

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    VICTORY POINTS:

    In Multiplayer this scenario is won by a system of victory points. This to avoid a certain nuclear holocaust, and to make the scenario more of a struggle to keep the peace than to be the first one to start WW3.

    The civ with most victory points upon ended game wins. In this respect even the NATO civs compete. Score is to be kept in full honesty between the players during the game, with updates on the respective players' point situation after each played turn. Everyone start at zero points.

    Diplomacy points
    01. -50 points for declaring war without a legitimate casus belli.
    02. -25 for provoking the other civ to declare war.

    Civilised points
    03. +0,5 point for every trade route established (China gets +1).
    04. -1 point for every pollution square within you territory. In case of a nuclear attack the attacker get's -1 point for every pollution square created in enemy territory (points given back upon cleaning).

    Technological points
    05. +2 point for every civil tech discovered.
    06. -2 point for every military tech discovered.

    War points
    07. -10 points for every nuke used (minus points for caused pollution in adition).
    08. +2 points for every city won through proxy war.
    09. +1 point for capturing a human city using conventional weapons.
    10. -5 point for capturing a human city using nuclear weapons.
    11. +10 points for capturing an enemy capitol city (points lost upon enemy recapture).
    12. -10 points for losing capitol city (points won back upon recapture).

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    Proxy Wars using the shield system:

    How to start a proxy war
    Proxy Wars are started using Dario's Diplomacy tool. You force war, and before you save your turn force peace, so that the AI won't attack you from another pro country independent of the proxy war you're fighting.

    If a player decides to start a proxy war, he must announce this 3 turns before he sends his units from his home ports. This gives the opposing side time enough to scramble troops for a counter move to the same country.

    What you may bring
    A player may only bring with him x100 (planes count x200 (including helicopters), ships nothing) worth of units in terms of shields of what the actual city size is. If a proxy war is started in a size 5 city, the player is allowed to bring with him 500 shields worth of units.

    Whole countries are represented, so if the country has more than one city, the city sizes are added together as one city size to determine how many shields may be brought along.

    How a proxy war is won and what you do afterwards
    A player may claim victory in two cases
    1. Annihilate the enemy force.
    2. Capture and hold all cities for 5 turns.

    After winning the war, the nation must be handed back to the respective minor ally. After this a new proxy war can't be started for another 6 (1 game year) turns by the opposing side, so that remote participants in a future proxy war can prepare for the next assault.

    Once handed over the player may start to trade with the city.

    The victor of the proxy war may station 2 units, including planes (in which case he may build an airbase within the country's border), of his chosing in the country after having won the war. These units would then be alowed to be used in adition to a possible new proxy war in that country.

    If a city is captured, you may not build anything in it, only city improvements.

    What countries you may attack
    In general all "Pro-" countries are subject to proxy wars (exept Cuba and Chile), but for the mentioned on the excluded list the player get a legitimate chance to declare war on the opposing side, without loss of victory points (VP). In this situation it will be regarded as a provocation by the opposing side and he will suffer -25 VPs in accordance to VP rule #2.

    What China may do]
    China may keep the cities she starts proxy war in. But those areas are of course then again subject to counter proxy wars from both the Soviets and the NATO. Also, China should be careful starting proxy wars with nations on the exeption list...

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    HINTS:

    Proxy Wars
    As capitalist civs can only trade with capitalist civs, and WARPAC only with the Pro-Soviets (Everyone can trade with the Non-aligned), proxy wars will be important. To simulate proxy wars (especially in MP games) you will have to ship military hardware to a pro-the opposite of your pro civ's city and unload them nearby. Then you must gift these units to your pro-civ AI, and hope they can win the war and swear legiance to you. This is the only way to expand markets, as you can not declare war just like that without triggering WW3. Once this is done you can ship trade goods to the city and benefit from the revenues. In the case of an MP game, obviously not all pro cities are cities the other human's would tolerate as your new pro city, so be aware. Africa and South America are declared "free zones", meaning everyone can start proxy wars there without the fear of military reactions from the other human civs.

    Avoid pollution
    Co-operate with other nations to keep down the growing pollution around the world. Invest in environmentally friendly technology and city improvements. Only in this way can you avoid global warming.

    Russian industries
    As Russia controls the Caucasus Oil wonder (Hoover Dam) from the start, every city which builds a Heavy Industry will immediately get a +100% shield production.
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    Last edited by Eivind IV; March 1, 2007, 04:35.
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  • #2
    I know I've said no to a couple of people about joining other PBEMs, but I can't resist this one, as I just released it and I'm dying to try the new version.

    For viewing previous changes and other release news, check out the release thread in the SL section of Apolyton: http://www.apolyton.com/forums/showt...58#post4603960

    Now let's get down to business:

    CIVILISATIONS

    Human Civs:
    Warsaw Pact - AiC
    People's Republic of China - Eivind IV
    American NATO - Eurisko
    European NATO - Academia

    AI Civs:
    Pro-Westerners
    Pro-Soviets
    Non-Aligned

    This is a 4 player PBEM and should go pretty fast. Alejandro has called dibs on a civ, but hasn't specified which one. But he should have veto should anyone else want the civ he wants. Other than that, I think it's fair to say - START CLAIMING CIVs!!

    I have called the smallest - China, as I'm still having a very hectic real life.

    Everyone should be very certain they have read and understood the house rules, especially the one about Proxy Wars - as it's essential to success - mainly for WARPAC, and for the others to counter.
    Last edited by Eivind IV; October 12, 2006, 15:29.
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    • #3
      give me european nato
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      Iron Curtain v1.1 - Civ II Scenario

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      • #4
        one question about the proxy wars... when you talk about gifting units, you talk about only land units? or can we supply our "allies" with vessels and aircrafts too? or even missiles?
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        Iron Curtain v1.1 - Civ II Scenario

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        • #5
          I think we reached a consensus in the playtest PBEM that only land units are to be gifted.
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          • #6
            I can take this PBEM too, I have a lot of spare time! WARPAC!
            Last edited by Nilat; September 27, 2006, 12:56.
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            • #7
              If no one's taken the Yanks by the weekend, I'll play them. I'll still give a chance for others, as I'm somewhat swamped, but I would like to see this get going.

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              • #8
                Just want to remind everybody of these rules which are slightly different to the normal rules of PBEMs:

                11. Maximum 5 units on the regular Aircraft Carrier. Maximum 15 on the NP supercarrier.
                12. Subs can not carry ballistic missiles until you've researched "Submarine-Based Nukes". And subs can not carry ICBMs, only MRBMs and Cruise Missiles.
                13. Missiles may not "fly" from sub to sub or carrier to carrier.
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                • #9
                  Also, what #13 implies, missiles must be loaded and unloaded INSIDE a city. You can't fly missiles from subs/carriers to cities and vica verca.

                  Also one that I take for granted:

                  -No square stealing from the AI.

                  It really shouldn't be neccessary with these detailed house rules. If everybody just used common sense, they should understand what makes sense and what not.
                  Last edited by Eivind IV; September 28, 2006, 16:05.
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                  • #10
                    Hi, I want to play American NATO.

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                    • #11
                      I guess that's it! We are on. Should I start or wait for an update, or something?
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                      • #12
                        Start. No more updates.
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                        • #13
                          Jesus, is it me or don't these forums work for most of the time?! Oh well, here it is (the turn)

                          Eivind: Why does Omsk (I think) have the capitol building?! A second capital of the Soviet Union?

                          I want to also remind everybody of these rules before they play their turns so they wont mess up anything:

                          6. Exeptions to poxy wars: All non aligned cities, Spain, Romania, North Africa and the Middle East, Cuba, Vietnam, Taiwan and N. Korea.
                          7. NATO may only trade with the Pro-Westerners. WARPAC may only trade with the Pro-Soviets. Everyone may trade with the Non-Aligned. China may trade freely world wide.
                          WARPAC Turn

                          Breshnev wishes to remind all major powers (European, American NATO and China) in the world, that attacking a pro-soviet nation or communist rebels will result in war with us. We shall help our communist brothers around the world!

                          I would like to conclude by showing my interest of discussing politics with our Communist brothers, China, and the capitalists of Europe and America.
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                          • #14
                            eivind:
                            two questions...
                            1) can i fight a limited war in europe? fighting in yugoslavia or finland against soviet troops?
                            2) can i invade USSR?
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                            Iron Curtain v1.1 - Civ II Scenario

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                            • #15
                              Somehow two rules has vanished from the list I made:

                              Addition to #8 (that answers you question 1 Alej):
                              "No civs may attack the non aligned, unless there's ww3 situation"

                              And another rule (that answers your request for talks, mikko):
                              "China may only align themself in a ww3 situation, and only with the defender."

                              And of course you may invade Russia, if you want to start ww3.
                              Last edited by Eivind IV; October 1, 2006, 18:24.
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