BATTLEFIELD GETTYSBURG - Preview & Creation Discussion Thread

[Exile]

How about that.

Sharpshooters?

So that's what the "SS" stands for. I've been playing Gettyburg for years now, and I never knew what Berdan's green-uniformed regiments were.

Learn something every day.

[jim panse]

@ Fairline: Thank you for your advice, I do think that will work out better.

Any ideas where to get those Brigade/Regimental flags/signs/whatever?

[Sarsstock]

I tried to look for those regimental flags when I went to post those regiments but I couldn't find more than just a handfull of colour illustrations.

[jim panse]

Well, Chris, I did not find anything matching too. Crap.

Attached the new units list ... I think this could work

Rebel Units:

C.S. Officer
McLaw's Division
Picket's Division
Hood's Division
Early's Division
Johnson's Division
Rodes' Division
Andersen's Division
Heth's Division
Pender's Division
Stuart's Division (Cav)
Imboden's Command

Robert E. Lee
James Longstreet
Richard S. Ewell
Ambrose P. Hill

Yankee Units:

I Corps, 1st Division
I Corps, 2nd Division
I Corps, 3rd Division
II Corps, 1st Division
II Corps, 2nd Division
II Corps, 3rd Division
III Corps, 1st Division
III Corps, 2nd Division
V Corps, 1st Division
V Corps, 2nd Division
V Corps, 3rd Division
VI Corps, 1st Division
VI Corps, 2nd Division
VI Corps, 3rd Division
XI Corps, 1st Division
XI Corps, 2nd Division
XI Corps, 3rd Division
XII Corps, 1st Division
XII Corps, 2nd Division
Cav Corps, 1st Division
Cav Corps, 2nd Division
Cav Corps, 3rd Division

George G. Meade
John F. Reynolds
Winfield S. Hancock
Daniel E. Sickles
George Sykes
John Sedgwick
Oliver O. Howard
Henry W. Slocum

Shared Units:

Horse Artillery
6-pdr Battery
lt. 12-pdr Battery
24-pdr Howitzer
6-pds Artillery Shell
12-pds Artillery Shell
24-pds Howitzer Shell

[jim panse]

Just playing around with the corps and division badges ...

[Harry Tuttle]

Jim, how about an eagle or just the old Union crest for the Union troops. The star really didn't come into use till the early the next century.

[Sarsstock]

Hmmm... it might be a tad harder to find illustrations of the units under those names Steph, such as "V Corps, 2nd Division" as oppose to the previous names such as "14th New York Militia". I do understand that the names and labeling are more accurate now than they were before.

Which units and uniforms do you think would best represent each division?

[jim panse]

@ Harry: Thanks a lot, this will do just fine. Any idea what the Confederate "unit shield" should be looking like? Attached is what I have done with that Yankee symbol, I haven´t yet decided which type I should use ... though I opt for the left one

@ Chris: Hum - good, very good point. The link below takes you to the Wikipedia entry about the Union OOB/Gettysburg - there is a link towards the Rebel OOB too on that site.

Union I Corps, 1st Division:

19th Indiana
24th Michigan
2nd Wisconsin
6th Wisconsin
7th Wisconsin
7th Indiana
76th New York
84th New York
95th New York
147th New York
56th Pennsylvania

I´d give that unit a maximum of two different unit graphics - one NY infantry graphic and one Wisconsin.

If we´d apply that rule to the other divisions of the Union troops as well I´d need these unit graphics:

I Corps, 1st Division - NY Inf., Wisconsin Inf.
I Corps, 2nd Division - "New England" Inf., Pennsylvania Inf.
I Corps, 3rd Division - Pennsylvania Inf., Vermont Inf.

II Corps, 1st Division - NY (=Irish Brigade) Inf., New England Inf.
II Corps, 2nd Division - Pennsylvania Inf., Massachusettes Inf., Minnesota Sharpshooters
II Corps, 3rd Division - Ohio Inf., NY Inf.

III Corps, 1st Division - Pennsylvania Inf., Sharpshooters, New England Inf.
III Corps, 2nd Division - NY Inf., New Jersey Inf.

V Corps, 1st Division - Massachusetts Inf., Pennsylvania Inf.
V Corps, 2nd Division - Union Regulars
V Corps, 3rd Division - Pennsylvania Reserves

VI Corps, 1st Division - New Jersey Inf., Pennsylvania Inf.
VI Corps, 2nd Division - Vermont Inf., NY Inf.
VI Corps, 3rd Division - Pennsylvania Inf., New England Inf.

XI Corps, 1st Division - NY Inf., Ohio Inf.
XI Corps, 2nd Division - NY Inf., Ohio Inf.
XI Corps, 3rd Division - NY Inf.

XII Corps, 1st Division - New England Infantry
XII Corps, 2nd Division - Ohio Inf., NY Inf.

Cav Corps, 1st Division
Cav Corps, 2nd Division
Cav Corps, 3rd Division

And now to explain those infantry types a bit:

* New England Infantry - some kind of unit resembling the New England provenience of its soldiers;

* New York Infantry - it would be great to have a number of different uniform types to chose from

* Sharpshooters - two different types, US Sharpshooters and Minnesota Sharpshooters;

* Union Retulars - should be clear what I´d need;

* Pennsylvania Reserves - I have no clue what they wore ...

I´ll post the splitted Rebel OOB later

Btw, I do think the divisional unit(s) could look like this:

[Harry Tuttle]

I think that looks pretty good. The eagle could be a bit smaller though. The Confederate shield was just like the Civ2 unit shield, but the two corners at the top were clipped at 45 degree angles. The design was of course the stars and bars.

[fairline]

Jim, the actual system used for Corps and Division flags in the Federal Armies can be found here:

http://www.bufordsboys.com/Flags.htm

[Sarsstock]

So just to be clear Steph, are you suggesting that each individual unit graphic would be made up of two infantrymen? Meaning that in the case of I Corps, 1st Division the unit graphic would be a NY Infantryman standing beside a Wisconsin Infantryman?

If this is indeed the case I can get started right away.

[Sarsstock]

Here's what I mean Steph, for this example of the I Corps, 1st Division I used the 14th New York and the 2nd Wisconsin. Would this be what you were looking for or did you have other regiments in mind?

[Sarsstock]

*edit*

Here's the unit example. Now I just realized that the 14th New York wasn't in the I Corps, 1st Division but rather the 147th and several others. So for now Steph just let me know if this style of unit is what your indeed looking for and if so then I will proceed with making up the proper I Corps, 1st Division units along with all the others post haste.

[jim panse]

@ Fairline: Well, that´s "only" cavalry colours. Anymore info about infantry colours I did not find

@ Sarsstock: I meant something slightly different - I might split up the divisional unit into two or more units.

I am also contemplating to use my miniature soldier graphics once more ...

[Harry Tuttle]

Nah, go with the big ones. Sarsstock and Fairline have enough to make it worthwhile.