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  • Originally posted by rmsharpe
    I already said that
    Not since Curt described the BC as more powerful than a BB. It's not.
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    • The Battle-Cruiser 'Surface Raider' unit is slightly more
      expensive than a BB to represent Germany's WW2 naval
      shortfalls. And while it can outgun a BB, it has not got
      such heavy armour, but can travel faster.

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      • Progress UPDATE!

        *Added War Supplies unit for trade.

        *Removed cities: Rivadivia and Sudbury.

        *Added Cities: Wake, Midway and Pearl Harbor.

        *Changed generic infantry to attack, to help prevent Canadian unit gridlock.

        *Added more border forts to Northern USA, cutting off all entry to the interior.

        *Added Hurricane fighter.

        *Nebelwerfer changed to more historically useful 105mm Wespe.

        *Artillery changed to generic versions, in 45mm, 75mm and 150mm flavours.

        New zip coming soon!
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        • The suspense is killing me.
          -rmsharpe

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          • And me!

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            • I suspended my initial playtesting after one turn, when it became apparent that the US-Canada problem had to be resolved.

              Can't wait to start the scen again.

              But how about the Brit-Barb problem in SE Asia?
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              • I have the new version right here, so I would be delighted
                if anyone could give it a playtest for a few game years and
                tell me what they think of the new setup?



                PS
                The Brits in Asia pose some tricky problems, I am
                considering giving a few cities to the commonwealth
                or neutrals to stop Brit attacks.

                This brings me onto the factor of the commonwealth civ,
                should they be kept as is or should they be prevented from
                building anything, instead using events to help the Brit?

                Options are open – Even to introduce a Chinese civ.
                But then we will have to see what can be done with Canada, etc…

                Well, if some intrepid types could take a few tests and
                give me a list of any bugs/glithches/concerns we can get
                this monster into fighting shape!

                Keep me posted of anything!

                PS
                Cheers in advance!
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                • Oh, and you'd best start a new game, as these changes are radical...

                  Also please DL the 'Sound1' file again!

                  You can delete the 'Pos', 'Arty1', and 'Arty2' files from your sound folder too!

                  Cheers!
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                  • If anyone is playing the lastest version...

                    Do you find the AA Battery to be too tough???
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                    • The US-Canada problem still exists. I ran a test by killing all civs except the US, Allies and Neutrals (can't kill Barb civ); surrounding Vancouver with a wall of US units; fortifying all US units; and using the ORDERS pulldown to end turns without having to manage any US units.

                      The results duplicated what rmsharpe reported for the previous version. By mid '43 there were about 15 Allied units milling around from Chicago to Denver to Pierre.

                      The Allied units, originally located NE of Boston, had moved SW down the eastern seabord early in the scen. In Oct '41, the first Artillery unit appeared near Pierre. After that, there was a steady stream of units that moved west from Toronto and then turned south at the western end of Lake Superior. All of them were under various GOTO orders to approximately (50,60). Without the wall around Vancouver, there probably would have been some Allied units roaming around on the West Coast.

                      To avoid this, IMHO the scen has to start with a coast to coast barrier of fortresses + US Inf or something equivalent (mines, anyone? ), or instructions to US players to immediately create one.

                      The additional EW roads are a good idea except that Armored Cars and Tanks cannot use them to cross impassable Mountain terrain. Perhaps the impassable mountain squares under railroads could be replaced by hills. Railroad builders tended to put their tracks through passes rather than high mountains.

                      Sorry, but the US does not appear to be ready for meaningful playtesting.


                      If anyone is playing the lastest version...

                      Do you find the AA Battery to be too tough???
                      Dunno bout that one but why would anyone build the 75mm popgun?

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                      • While we're speaking of Canada, I think it might be a good idea to insert the city of Winnipeg into Southern Manitoba. It is considered by many to be the gateway to the Canadian West, and it would serve therefore as a crucial strongpoint in the event of a German invasion of North America from the east as well as a Japanese invasion from the West.

                        Just a thought.

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                        • i watched some show on the history channel about the construction of a highway from washington state to alaska that went through british colombia, it was supposed to be a major supply route in case of a japanese invasion of alaska, perhaps you could impliment this somehow,
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                          • Originally posted by AGRICOLA The results duplicated what rmsharpe reported for the previous version. By mid '43 there were about 15 Allied units milling around from Chicago to Denver to Pierre.
                            Did they prevent you from moving units or clog up the RRs?

                            Originally posted by AGRICOLA The Allied units, originally located NE of Boston, had moved SW down the eastern seabord early in the scen. In Oct '41, the first Artillery unit appeared near Pierre. After that, there was a steady stream of units that moved west from Toronto and then turned south at the western end of Lake Superior. All of them were under various GOTO orders to approximately (50,60). Without the wall around Vancouver, there probably would have been some Allied units roaming around on the West Coast.
                            Hmm...

                            Take a look at my save from the same version...
                            I cannot see any of the odd actions you describe...



                            I checked on the Commonwealth and could not see the
                            swamp of units there was before, in fact, they seemed
                            to be loading units onto transport and sending them
                            Eastwards...The AI is indeed weird...




                            Originally posted by AGRICOLA To avoid this, IMHO the scen has to start with a coast to coast barrier of fortresses + US Inf or something equivalent (mines, anyone? ), or instructions to US players to immediately create one.
                            That seems like a pretty extreme solution...
                            I am even considering giving the canadian cities to the US civ...

                            Originally posted by AGRICOLA The additional EW roads are a good idea except that Armored Cars and Tanks cannot use them to cross impassable Mountain terrain. Perhaps the impassable mountain squares under railroads could be replaced by hills. Railroad builders tended to put their tracks through passes rather than high mountains.
                            I'll look into this one...

                            PS
                            I used to play Railroad tycoon, y'know!


                            Originally posted by AGRICOLA Sorry, but the US does not appear to be ready for meaningful playtesting.
                            Is this based on the RR and the neighbours?

                            Originally posted by AGRICOLA Dunno bout that one but why would anyone build the 75mm popgun?
                            The same reason as they would build anything?

                            Are you saying it needs beefed up?

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                            • PS
                              Agricola, many thanks for your playtesting - You are an ace!

                              Any suggestions on unit balances or any details, please let me know...



                              I think the best solutions are:

                              1)
                              To give the Canadian cities to British or US control...

                              2)
                              To totally isolate them with ocean squares...But that will mess up the map...
                              I am rather loathe to delete these Canadian cities from the map...

                              3)
                              Adding a minefield unit will use up more space, more
                              units and look fugly with the ToT health-bars hovering all around...

                              Other that this, I am pretty much stumped!

                              Now is the time for me to choose - What do you think?
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                              • Curt, what are you using impassible terrain for?
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