Graphics for Freeciv

[Yog-Sothoth]

Originally posted by varwnos
hi Yog-Sothoth.

First of all Cthulhu told me to say that i dont like them

but apart from that, i think that they would fit more if they were done in the same angle as the cities are, since now they look flat.

and where can i dl the current version? (and which version is that?)

There is no binary released yet. The version in CVS is the development version. You will have to either: download the current CVS HEAD and compile it yourself (which is far from trivial if your using Windows) or wait for the next stable release which will probably be 2.1. (there will still be 2.0.x releases, but these are bugfix releases on the current stable version).

Btw, the development version of freeciv uses true color PNG's so you don't have to worry about palettes.

[Timor_Leste]

CapTVK- I like the middle one TL, but whose sig is that?

Edit: It's actually Heresson.

Two, questions, for anyone out there:
1) I was once pointed to the Graphics Workshop thread on Poly, but I haven't been able to find it since the crash. Does anyone know if (and where) it was reconstituted?

2) Has anyone seen the main ship of Species 8472?: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/vie...le/119943.html A different picture of the ship I'm talking about can be found at the top of this website (along with other ships I've never heard of scattered throughout the website): http://smcsta2.tripod.com/species_8472.htm

[Harry Tuttle]

1) the graphics workshop thread is still up for re-initialization. Go bug Mark or you can always just start asking questions to the SL, as always

[Heresson]

It's Heresson.

The middle horsemen is a Quarizmian

[Timor_Leste]

Originally posted by Heresson
It's Heresson.

Changed.

Originally posted by Heresson
The middle horsemen is a Quarizmian

What is a "Quarizmian"?

[Boco]

I suspect you might get more hits if you Google "Khwarizmian Turks". Do I have that right?

[Timor_Leste]

That's a good point, Boco- that explains it.
I googled it and found a couple of interesting hits. I remember someone was doing a scenario for Syracuse before the 2nd Punic War. I found a potentially helpful website for it. I also found a hypothetical scenario, where the Duke of Milan provides unlimited monetary support to Leonardo Da Vinci to make his war machines. Also, another page gives a listing for armies for all sorts of eras and regions. At the bottom of this page, you'll find a list titled "Sci-Fi and Fantasy DBA Lists", with stuff like War of the Rings and Dune. For "comprehensive coverage of the wars in Spain (and the Punic wars) try the following website ." Different things I saw listed in the "armies" pages: tactics, combat units used, rulers, political relations, battles fought, appearance of military personnel.

Maybe someone will find this stuff useful.

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Boco
I suspect you might get more hits if you Google "Khwarizmian Turks". Do I have that right?

Yes

[CapTVK]

Stuff continuess to happen...

Some work has been done on creating a scenario event language for Freeciv. The designers would like to hear some ideas/suggestions for further events.

Follow the link to see some see examples:

http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/Events_Reference_Manual

[curtsibling]

Those screenies look top class!

[Harry Tuttle]

I'm going to post my reply to Cap's and Vasc's thread in the thread posted at the Freeciv forums.

Cap's initial post:

Status - We now have a preliminary version of an event language (based on Lua). Currently it's used in a tutorial (dev-version only). Question now is, where do we go from here. What do we need?

Vasc's reply was:

I suspect only when we try to make some scenarios will we know. Perhaps we should try to get permission for converting some Civilization II scenarios from the authors?

My reply:

Good idea. Though I have to wonder, is there a Civ2-to-Freeciv converter program out there?

Most scenarios have custom maps, graphics, and events. Cutting and pasting graphics and translating event language for a complete conversion might take longer than just making up a simple example scenario.

Should a few scenario conversions be the first step, or should a "test bed" scenario be created to show off what tasks the event language can cover? It's important to note that even some of the more complex scenarios do not use the entire event language.

So, I guess in addition to my post, would there be anyone willing to submit a graphic set of their own, complete with units and cities (for visual flair and screenshots), for use in a "test bed" scenario. I'm thinking a generic Roman Empire scenario would be a nice easy scenario to make.

[curtsibling]

My recent ancient cities are up for grabs if they are needed?

[CapTVK]

A simple Roman Empire scenario would be a good testcase Harry.

With Fairline's ancient unit collection*, Curtsiblings cities, some help&technical assistance from the FC developers and a good plan we should be able to come up with something pretty good!


*I'll try and stick to the basic unit set for now however, this would be comparable to the original Civ2 rome scenario + some events as showcases.

[fairline]

Are there any plans to make the events language more user-friendly? The stuff Cap has linked to looks a bit forbidding...

Nice idea about the Roman scenario Harry - feel free to use any units I've made. BTW, what are the graphic formats for Freeciv? As I understand it, there is no need to be restricted by the civ2 palette and 16-bit with transparency is OK th use (?). How about dimensional restrictions? The cities seem to use a range of sizes; does the same apply to units?

[Harry Tuttle]

By my knowledge the pallette is more than compatible with ToT graphics and the 16 bit transperancy is OK.

The dimensional restrictions really depend on the tileset that the player chooses. Since tilesets can be almost any size, so can units. For example, the Civ2 unit dimensions are 64 x 48 (?), but in Freeciv you can have 72 x 64 or even 56 x 40 if I'm not mistaken.

Cities, tiles, and units do have some restrictions when it comes to dimensional compatibility however. Units cannot be, for example, be 3 times the size of a terrain tile.

Thanks for the OK on the graphics Curt and Fairline. I think the Roman Empire would be a pretty simple and recognizable scenario for people to learn about the events.