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Originally posted by fairline
I disagree with Panda and Harry's suggestions about using the forum as a glorified links page when it comes to resources.
Actually I meant using the web space on other sites as just for backup locations, not for entirely new websites. This is just a personal choice so that things aren't lost when a crash happens. I wholeheartedly believe we need to keep everything happening on the forums where most of the traffic happens. Splitting off would be a bad thing for us to do.
...and link pages are boring, we need people to keep their work on the boards here. Creating a pure links forum would be like taking a local marketplace and replacing all the shop stalls with billboards and catalogs. Bleh.
I suggest we have a subforum for all the links, something that would be like opening up an encyclopedia if we needed tips or info when planning a scenario.
Originally posted by CapTVK
A Wiki is different from a forum in that its focus is on organizing&editing content (in principle everyone can edit and add new pages).
Excuse me if I misunderstand something, but this sounds awfully unsafe to me!
We just experienced here a tragic unwanted erasure, and this happened with only a restricted number of responsible and well meaning people able to do the "edition" of all threads!
Now, if everybody would be able to achieve the same nightmare, I would be really scared!
Everybody being able to edit his own post (and of course add new threads and posts!) is perfect, but I don't want anybody able to edit (or erase!) my posts (except for our revered moderators, of course).
Can you picture the 2 following cases (I regretfully do...):
1) one of our estimed posters (lets call him Curtline, for instance... ), comes back from an harassing day at work; he connects to the forum, and clumsily (quite untypical for him...) deletes a thread...
2) another, much less "mature" poster (I won't name him so as not to launch a post war...) gets angry after some comments about his work being nothing more than plagia, and decides to erase all the posts and threads from his accuser, and then just walks away never to come back again... (and then we would have lost all Exile's contribution on this forum)
I wouldn't like those kind of situations to appear, would you??
Originally posted by Cyrion
Excuse me if I misunderstand something, but this sounds awfully unsafe to me!
We just experienced here a tragic unwanted erasure, and this happened with only a restricted number of responsible and well meaning people able to do the "edition" of all threads!
Now, if everybody would be able to achieve the same nightmare, I would be really scared!
Wikis have good versioning of content. It's easy to revert changes back arbitrarily far. They are hard to vandalize and easy to maintain.
Just look at the fantastically popular WikiPedia, the paragon of the model. It gets about a million visitors a day, and avoids major vandalism despite most of those visitors being able to edit the articles.
Everybody being able to edit his own post (and of course add new threads and posts!) is perfect, but I don't want anybody able to edit (or erase!) my posts (except for our revered moderators, of course).
It would be a replacement for the website rather than for the forum. Holding a discussion in a Wiki is possible, but not very effective.
A DeviantArt-like setup would probably be more suited to what we do, but I am not aware of any good free implementations, and I'd rather not write my own without being paid substantial buckaroos.
Excuse me if I misunderstand something, but this sounds awfully unsafe to me!
Hehe, that's the initial reaction when you try to explain the concept of a Wiki. But a Wiki really is something different from a forum. Wiki's are meant to be worked on as a group. Everyone can make a page, update or make corrections. You can have limited access to a Wiki but for most pages that wouldn't be necessary.
Don't worry, the older version are always saved. A Wiki is based on a database that keeps track of all the changes. In the case of webvandalism you can always go back to an older version of the page. The information present on a wiki page is quite safe because the old versions are always backed up. The advantage of open access to a wiki is that you keep your documentation up to date. Want to add Smiley's "hightower"-design tip to the SL? Easy, go to Civ graphics page, edit the page, write a few new paragraphs, include a screenshot and presto! Later on someone can improve that paragraph and give a few additional examples.
Watching a wiki page "evolve" is quite interesting. Here's a screencast commentary of a Wikipage. It also shows how quickly vandalism can be repaired.
Skeptics should forego any thought of convincing the unconvinced that we hold the torch of truth illuminating the darkness. A more modest, realistic, and achievable goal is to encourage the idea that one may be mistaken. Doubt is humbling and constructive; it leads to rational thought in weighing alternatives and fully reexamining options, and it opens unlimited vistas.
Well, in the best case that would be the Civ2 Scenario community.
I've got a few other projects on my plate but I can lend a hand with some the pages. It would be like a 10 'o clock in the evening "let's pop up at the SL Wiki for a few minutes and see what's happening" kind of job.
Skeptics should forego any thought of convincing the unconvinced that we hold the torch of truth illuminating the darkness. A more modest, realistic, and achievable goal is to encourage the idea that one may be mistaken. Doubt is humbling and constructive; it leads to rational thought in weighing alternatives and fully reexamining options, and it opens unlimited vistas.
What are the advantages of using a Wiki in the context of the Scenario League? I don't want other people buggering about with my graphics posts, and I'm sure scenario designers feel the same way about their scenarios. What would be the benefit in allowing anyone to to tinker with site content, other than perhaps tips and advice?
Although we've learned much in the last few years, excepting gfx workshops, few guides to designing have appeared. A Wikipedia for designing could be very helpful. For example, I'd be interested in participating in an article on using the MoveUnit command effectively.
And yeah, I'd like to see an area reserved for virgin scens and gfx. I have enough troubles keeping my own versions straight during alpha testing!
I've been found out! (that's picture's a few years old though)
Originally posted by CapTVK
My suggestion would be two-fold: the SL would, in time become a Wiki and the Scenario forum would still have its function that it has know : Top threads for showing off graphics (albeit a bit more organized to prevent clutter and spamming) and the usual debates about scenarios, questions, events etc...If a subject is really important you could easiliy copy&paste the content from that thread to a new or existing wiki page at SL. It would save St.Leo a lot of time in keeping SL up to date himself.
So, news&discussions&debate = forum and documentation = Wiki
But I think I'd want to go a bit further with the Wiki. The graphics showcases should really only serve to get some feedback on the graphics. Say, similar to scenario development threads. When the graphics are all done they should be posted on the wiki.
I am going to look into a suitable wiki variant to adopt. We need one with easy file upload that runs on PHP or PHP/MySQL.
Thanks for those links and for looking into this.
Originally posted by curtsibling
Once the stuff is added to the wiki, only the poster is able
to make changes, or mods - just like at regular SL forums.
Am I right here?
In principle, no... Anyone can make changes. Take a look at wikipedia.org, for instance. At the top of every article is an "edit this page" link. Anyone can simply go in and change it.
But, I would assume that you can limit areas of the wiki so only the original author or a mod can change it.
For one, the SLeague should really only be editable by SLeague members. Secondly, I'd think only stuff like tips, faq's, links and guides would be editable by any registered member. Files and reviews should only be editable by the original author or a mod.
If certain words could be made as keywords, like clicking 'fairline' could lead you to all his graphic threads, that would be killer!
Originally posted by Heresson
WHAT!!!!!!!! FFF MY POSTCOUNT!!!!!
well, at least you didn't loose your title,
I am not delusional! Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go dance with the purple wombat who's playing show-tunes in my coffee cup!
Rules are like Egg's. They're fun when thrown out the window!
Difference is irrelevant when dosage is higher than recommended!
).
But I think I'd want to go a bit further with the Wiki. The graphics showcases should really only serve to get some feedback on the graphics. Say, similar to scenario development threads. When the graphics are all done they should be posted on the wiki.
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