Treaties with Barbarians: Correction to hexedit compendium.

[AGRICOLA]

There is a minor correction that should be made to Mercator’s hexedit compendium.
In the Technologies & Money section, the following

byte 31 Reputation
byte 37-64 Treaties. 4 bytes for the treaties with all 7 civs (including their own civ).

should be changed to

byte 31 Reputation
byte 32-63 Treaties. 4 bytes for the treaties with all 8 civs (including Barbarians and their own civ).


Bytes 32-35 are for treaties between a civ and Barbarians. For example, if you want a civ to be allied to barbs (this is a bit unusual, but Arthedain wanted it for ZOC reasons), you need to enter 8c at the appropriate decimal offset.

Civ 1 3738
Civ 2 5166
Civ 3 6594
Civ 4 8022
Civ 5 9450
Civ 6 10878
Civ 7 12306


Note: The above is not all new. Andrew Livings has one civ allied with barbs in his Crisis of the New World Order scen. Obviously, he knew about bytes 32-35. I just couldn't duplicate his work before sorting out the role of bytes 32-35.

Edit #1: Changed 32-64 to 32-63. Thanks Mercator.
Edit #2: Corrected last 3 offsets.

[Mercator]

Thank you, though it would still be Allard's compendium. I've added it to my latest working copy.

Should I actually post that working copy, considering there's little chance I'll reformat the whole thing as I intended or work on my file format thread in the tips subforum any time soon?

I think it should actually be bytes 32-63, though. 32-64 is 33 bytes.

[AGRICOLA]

Thanks for the correction to 32-63 bytes. I assumed that the compendium was correct and never bothered to check the second number.

I am about to send you a copy of the compendium with both the barb treaty correction and a few words about how settlers/engineers accumulate charges in the UNITS section.

I agree that posting non-spoiler info is a good idea. IMO, reformating is not needed. The time for major discoveries regarding the structure of CIVII saved games seems to be over, thanks to the efforts of many. You would know how much new information is being generated. My impression is that only minor bits are being added, mainly things learned when scenarios require some offbeat tweaking.

Allard and you have done a great service in assembling and maintaining the Bible of Hexediting.

[yaroslav]

yes, Mercartor, I congratulate you for your work

However, I have not yet made my mind about the release of that spoiling info you know about. I think that it's better not to publish it.

[Broken_Erika]

Cool,

in the cities.gif, what is the 9th flag(the brown one) for?

[AGRICOLA]

What does the ninth flag have to do with hex editing?

If you have a question about hexediting or need some done, we'd be quite happy to help. But, please stop spamming threads with completely unrelated posts.

[Mercator]

Originally posted by AGRICOLA
I agree that posting non-spoiler info is a good idea. IMO, reformating is not needed.

OK then... Are you sure? Color "coding" and all? I'll just update the date and credits then. The next question is, where should I post it? I think I'll put it in a new "everything on Hex Editing " thread in the tips forum and close the other two.

The time for major discoveries regarding the structure of CIVII saved games seems to be over, thanks to the efforts of many.

I don't think I agree with that entirely. But there never were too many people involved in this and certainly the most obvious things have been found out.

Allard and you have done a great service in assembling and maintaining the Bible of Hexediting.

Originally posted by yaroslav
yes, Mercartor, I congratulate you for your work

I'm not nearly on the same level as Allard is on this. I have done far less in compiling the stuff, not to mention I never "released" any update of his compendium myself yet (well, apart from the file format thread)... But I'll take your compliments anyway!

However, I have not yet made my mind about the release of that spoiling info you know about. I think that it's better not to publish it.

Sure... But I don't think I'll keep that under wraps forever! Because, in fact, isn't mentioning where the block is enough to "compromise" it?

[techumseh]

Originally posted by Broken_Erika
Cool,

in the cities.gif, what is the 9th flag(the brown one) for?

It's just a spare.

[Harry Tuttle]

However, I have not yet made my mind about the release of that spoiling info you know about. I think that it's better not to publish it.

Sure... But I don't think I'll keep that under wraps forever! Because, in fact, isn't mentioning where the block is enough to "compromise" it?

You guys scare me sometimes.

[AGRICOLA]

That's only fair. Your scenarios scare me most of the time.

[Boco]

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
quote:
However, I have not yet made my mind about the release of that spoiling info you know about. I think that it's better not to publish it.

Sure... But I don't think I'll keep that under wraps forever! Because, in fact, isn't mentioning where the block is enough to "compromise" it?

You guys scare me sometimes.

I couldn't sleep last night, either! Should designers or MP gamers tremble?

at Agricola

[Mercator]

Our secret plan to take over the world by hex-editing is taking shape!

[yaroslav]

Originally posted by Mercator

However, I have not yet made my mind about the release of that spoiling info you know about. I think that it's better not to publish it.

Sure... But I don't think I'll keep that under wraps forever! Because, in fact, isn't mentioning where the block is enough to "compromise" it?

I don't think so. You know, the algorithm is not easy to discover. It took me a very long time to get it; I am very stupid, near retarded, so probably another guy will discover the algorithm a lot quicker, but it's not a trivial task, IMHO.

[Boco]

Originally posted by Mercator




Our secret plan to take over the world by hex-editing is taking shape!

[techumseh]

Originally posted by yaroslav


I don't think so. You know, the algorithm is not easy to discover. It took me a very long time to get it; I am very stupid, near retarded, so probably another guy will discover the algorithm a lot quicker, but it's not a trivial task, IMHO.

God, where does that leave me? I thought algorithm was some kind of dance beat!