Empire of the Rising Sun

[AGRICOLA]

I could do 'Desperate Tactics' and 'Divine Wind' both as event-generated techs directly (thus making 'Tide Turning' somewhat pointless), and use the capture of a Philipino or Mariana city (one for each), granting, as you say, a few free ones of each unit type.

This approach would let you control the timing much more precisely and make sure that players actually get the techs at a historically appropriate time.

Try looking at it from a player's point of view. How many important techs does he need to research to be able to build significantly better units? How long will it take to research them? Which ones is he likely to research first? Considering cost and performance will he research a new bomber which can be used many times rather than the one-shot Baka?

Also, watch out that some smart-*** player doesn't make it his first priority to attack the continental US. I've played a couple of WWII global scens as Japan. The designers had done such a good job of duplicating US unpreparedness that taking over the US was not much of a challenge. Banzai!

[Patine]

Ultimately, I see the wisdom in your suggestion, AGRICOLA. As for Japan invading the US West Coast, I've already dealt with that issue, at least initially; I'm considering using a unit called 'US Home Forces,' which has a great defense, moderate attack, and no move, but which can't be built during the game, which begin in all continental US cities. Thus, Japan would have to get battleships and heavy bombers in position to invade the US, and couldn't just make a sneak attack with their initial forces. Any thoughts?

[AGRICOLA]

Thanks, but I don't consider that I have all that much wisdom . . . at best, maybe a bit of non-linear thinking.

With the "'US Home Forces", you have obviously closed the door on one possible Japanese strategy. Without seeing the finished scen it's impossible to suggest much more than that you look for some other unexpected moves that a player might make. Expect that a cornered rat will try almost anything.

Not much help in that, is there? I would love to playtest when the time comes. Playing the underdog against the AI is much more interesting than playing a strong civ.

[Patine]

I think I can think of a few other unsuspected moves myself (like a quick lunge for Australia, bypassing the Dutch), though I'll have to consider whether I'd like to actually make these possible or not. They might add some color. Anyway, I'd love to have you playtest the scen when it's done; it'll either be posted on this thread or one with an obvious title. Thanks!

[Broken_Erika]

you could bypass the dutch in most scenarios, exept that it would be easier to take the dutch cities so that you could use them as airbases,during the attack on australia.

[Patine]

I certainly agree with that observation, Erika. It could prove a decisive choice in the game.

I've now come across a bit of a problem. How do those flags where there's all the advances' codes listed, each with a '0' to the left, then all the civs, each with several '0's' to the left, work? I know they're supposed to determine who can research and trade which techs, but how do you use them?

[Case]

Originally posted by Patine
Thanks Erika and Catfish for the help!

Now, I do need some help with an event decision. I have a tech called, "Tide Turning," which is a prequisite for "Desperate Tactics" (which grants Bansai Troops), which itself is a prerequisite for "Divine Wind," (which grants the Okha suicide plane). What I need is an idea for a battle won by the US (essentially, a city captured by the Americans), that would give the Japanese the Tide Turning advance. Does anyone have any ideas on what that city should be?

The Japanese resorted to deliberate suicde tactics after the loss of the Marianas (ie, Guam and Saipan) in mid 1944, and the tactics were first put into action during the battle of Lyete Gulf in October 1944.

The Marianas formed Japan's inner defence ring, and it was recognised that once the islands were lost, Japan's only hope for a good outcome was by using desperate tactics.

BTW, don't use the Okha - almost all of the Kamakazis were conventional aircraft. The Okha wasn't at all significant and achieved little. By using it, you will be mis-representing the Kamakazis tactics and abilities.

[Patine]

I do understand what you're trying to say. Perhaps, instead, I'll use a unit with a variant of the Zero graphics (I've got several) and just call it the 'Kamikaze,' lowering its attack and move from the Okha somewhat, but still have it destroyed by attacking.

BTW, don't worry, I figured out the allowed tech section of the ToT rules.txt by examining the scifi and fantasy game rules.txt's.

[Patine]

Say, can anyone help me. I've completed the unique research and ownership parameters of the civilization advances - but it still says anyone can research anything. I do know from previous ToT experience that there is an event that will 'kick in' that function, but the thread that I learned it from has dropped off. Can someone please tell me what that event is?

[Patine]

I had had problems in the bug concerning making civilization advances unique to certain civs. I found a thread after digging a bit that told me to make a new .scn file to get this feature to work, and then test it with the .scn file, not the working .sav file. First, I saved my current .sav file as a new .scn file (from the cheat menu), but when I loaded it, it went through the process of choosing a player, difficulty, and name, then gave a brief glimpse of the beginning map and shut down, with no error message (the music was even still playing). Then I began a new game, saved it as an .scn file in the scen folder, and loaded it, and the same thing happened. However, the .sav file works just fine, but still registers all techs as researchable by all players. What could be wrong, and what do I do about it?

Here's a post I made in the 'Test of Time' forum, but I don't think very many people frequent it anymore, so I'm repeating this problem I'm having with ToT here, in case someone on this thread can help me. I'd appreciate any aid in this endeavor. Thanks!

[Jimmywax]

Originally posted by Patine
I do understand what you're trying to say. Perhaps, instead, I'll use a unit with a variant of the Zero graphics (I've got several) and just call it the 'Kamikaze,' lowering its attack and move from the Okha somewhat, but still have it destroyed by attacking.

You could also lower the production cost somewhat to represent the fact that most of the pilots were new recruits or volunteers with little training. After all you only need the rudimentary skills for a one way trip.

[Broken_Erika]

i did a touch-up to the japanese type-1 tank, here it is

[SetuSinger]

I like that one.

[Patine]

Thanks a lot, Erika! It looks good!

[Patine]

Say, could someone please make me either a Kittyhawk or a Spitfire, but with RAAF (that is, Royal Australian Air Force) markings and flag (as in the blue and white circle)? I've got someone working on the Model 94 and the USS Enterprise (which reminds me; if you're reading this Chris, how are they coming?). I'd greatly appreciate the help. Thanks!