BITTERFROST II - Development Thread!

[curtsibling]

I have been trying to overcome that problem with the pedia, with all the the tricks I know...

But alas, ToT does not seem to want to list those units beyond the normal amount.

If anyone knows how to defeat this bug, it would be a bonus!



It is not such a biggie, as I will give information about the units in the Readme!

Only three more tasks to go...

1- Get the readme finished:

2- Finish the improvement pedia artwork:

3- Add one or two lines to the events to make the Ancients more of a pain:

And then I think it may be ready!

[curtsibling]

PS
Many thanks for your kind words, Cyrion!

Yer a diamond geezer!

[Cyrion]

Small events bug

I discovered a small bug (well, 2, to be precise), but the good news is: it's easy to correct!

I suppose you didn't know at first what you wanted to do with the Gem of Hidden Wisdom, because here is what happened in my game:
1) I took Ralal's Tomb, and upon entering I got the same message twice (and if you look in the events, it's there twice); apart from that (unecessary, I'm old but not enough to forget things after half a second) repetition, the event works fine and the Gem Wonder is indeed in Ralal's Tomb

Note: looking at the event file, the repetition bestows another improvement, and doesn't speak about the Gem!; just check!

2) When I took Arkunsol, I got a message telling me the Imperion gave the same Gem, which I of course already had!

So if I were you, I would just check what one gets with those 2 events...


And about the pedia: doesn't the once/twice removed trick work with ToT as it does with MPGE??

Now, that would make a good reason to insist with the "lesser civ version"...

[curtsibling]

Those will be fixed - Well spotted!

Also - You'll be glad to know that an old wizard from
down under let me in on the solution to the pedia bug!

This is good news!

[Cyrion]

Originally posted by curtsibling
Also - You'll be glad to know that an old wizard from
down under let me in on the solution to the pedia bug!

Has it to do with the "once/twice removed" techs, or does ToT require something different from MPGE??

(You never know, I might end up doing a ToT scen, one day... )

[curtsibling]

It had to do with the layout of the Describe.txt file.

That is what I am working on at the moment - But using
this and changing some rules values mean that indeed
all the units are now showing in the pedia!

[Cyrion]

Excellent!

You know how we are: we'll use the readme when we first play, but not after that, so it's good to have the units + Wonders in the Pedia!

PS: don't forget to check that all Wonders show up...

[curtsibling]

Will do!

More info to follow!

[Cyrion]

Details

Curt, it seems to me that some of your forest look like "truncated" at the top; I mean that the end of the forest at the top of the square looks a bit to ostraight! To understand more clearly what I mean, check on squares 187, 181 or 180, 176 for instance.

What do you think ?

[entering nitpicking mode]
In your event when receiving tech 14, you wrote "most" instead of "must"
[nitpicking mode off]

[curtsibling]

The forests are mostly ToT standard ones - But that does not mean I can't tweak them!

I'll see what I can do -
And about that nitpick; worry not!
I am a perfectionist too!

Cheers for the alert on that typo!

[Cyrion]

Gameplay report

OK, now I'm reporting on a few things I noticed in my game which are gameplay related!

I am playing as the Bursar, ath Prince level equivalent

I am in 27, and I just took Ironfire Peak

The only problem is that I think it was too easy... All I needed was Captain Lopaz and Irene, with rushbuilding Sentinels to garrison the cities as I took them!

The Ancient have many units, and powerful ones! But the problem is: they don't behave agressively with them!

I had a few Ancient units wandering around one of my city for about 10-20 turns without EVER attacking it!

And when I attacked the Ancient on their home ground, they just wandered (in huge numbers) around the cities as I took them one by one!

OK, I might have been lucky in some parts of it: just after I before I attacked Smashrule, I noticed an Ancient stack south of the city, so I thought: well, maybe there are 3-4 units in that stack, so it might be worth delaying my attack for one turn to kill them!

And believe me, it was worth the wait: I was quite pleased when I read that I had destroyed 58 units!

And after having taken Smashrule, another stack appeared at the same spot, so I thought I might redo the same: this time I got 135 of them b*st*rds! (up to now, my Red Front "record" was 93! ).

And after I had taken Direhold, a lot of Ancient Units kept on going round the city, so I thought I might try to go to Ironfire at once, which I did with ONLY Lopaz and Eddy euh, I mean Irene! I took me only 2 turns to take the city...

So I don't know if my game is representatvie of the Ancient behaviour, and if you can do something about their agressivity, but at least if the stacks are events created, try to spread the units a bit more so one can't destroy them all in 1 blow!

Another thing is that the Zatarn didn't develop at all: they have only one city (Temple of Sekra, which I am about to take!); did the other testers notice this lack of development too??

Note: my comments here don't mean the game isn't enjoyable, but I believe that if something could be done about that it would be even better!

[Cyrion]

End of test game

I just ended my test game with a Global COnquest by the Bursar Council in Direchill 31!

I didn't notice any other problems, congrats!

Am I allowed to say that I had a wonderful time playing this??

[curtsibling]

I am glad you got to defeat the rivals!

Did you get the Imperion Gaurds and other rewards?

PS
I am almost done with the describe text, it is a large task!

[Cyrion]

Yes, I got the awesome Imperion Guards, as well as many other rewards:

1) all of the Heroes before the other civs, except for xxx Horngal Armbreaker
2) I built or conquered from the Barbs all the Wonders before my rivals!

In summary, a pretty good performance!

For my conquests, I used nearly exclusively Heroes (once I had gained the 1st one) and Imperion Guard in the end game! (I ended with around 150 Imperion Guards, most of them unused... talk about overkill... )

[curtsibling]

A grand victory!

"Truly the crown of Bitterfrost has found rightful place on your esteemed head!"



Soon you can try and repeat the performance with the full version!