Empire of Thessalonike released!!!

[Gagliaudo]

love & peace...

Hi all you guys!

Agree with Boco: it's just a game... Be easy
Varwnos: Smiles are good, I think... Keep on smile
Jonash: agree with Jasev, nobody can't play all the scenarios that upload, and nobody can like ALL of them...
Everybody has his own preference, that's right.
Truely, I don't think Thessalonike's units are the best in all the scenario-creation history ... but I can't forget the author's job (done with PASSION).
So, if I dislike the graphic, but I like scenario plot... well, I (and everyone) can change the graphics, putting some other favourite of mine...
Ill be happier , and I'll play (or not! ) the scenario without saying 'big words' (more or less critical) to anybody...

Make love, not war...
Or better: make war !!!... but only with CIV !!!

[Heresson]

Some comments, a bit chaotical perhaps.
The first civ I started was Nicaea, but I didn't play a single turn. No improvements, lack of money and too much disordering/starving cities. My next choice was Epirus, and this game I continued. It was quite nice, actually. It's a good scenario when it comes to the gameplay. The units have their own characteristics, though actually the only ones I kept on building were big galleys, big siege engines and doryphoroi or whatever. By the end of the century, my empire reached Welbuzzi, Ochrid and Durazzo in NE, Constantinople in the E, Monemvasia in the S, and my recently built fleet was just setting for a conquest of the islands. But I wouldn't get that far (though probably it isn't the best You can get) if not my dear Serbia giving me up to 400 gold anytime I "asked". A good thing is that I had to deal with almost all the civs from the start, befor I got strong. but the events depicting Klokotnica battle weren't enough strong imho. Also, You should correct the coordinates of barbarian units appearing north to Chalkidiki. They are odd-even, and it's pretty annoying for me to have to by-pass my own cities not to hurt my own units - my conquest were slowed down by it.
-the units look less nice when You look closer than on the screenshot, but they aren't bad.
-the rest of the artwork isn't the author's job, it'd be better to make something of your own, especially that some stuff doesn't fit the scenario. I don't think the cities are appropriate. I lack a nice banner graphic.
-there are some lack of changes in the artwork and scenario in general, like there's a manufacturing plant with original name and graphics, and there are some minor lacks like that (right now I don't remember what exactly. Oh! I recalled. Stuff like the titles of the monarchs. Pharaohs and stuff)

[Varwnos]

Thank you you are right about your comments, the artwork isnt very fitting, perhaps i will re-work the scen sometime in the future. Nicaea is very chaotic in the first turn, but this is so that to ensure it is very hard not to lose 3 cities in the first 4-5 turns to the latins, as had happened, and also they dont have siege engines, they only get to produce the bigger siege engine after research. In 2 turns the civil disorders/starvation mostly are done with.

As for Serbia i must confess that i didnt try to ask them for money, i wanted to ensure that there wouldnt be a war between serbia and epiros, but it sounds like i overdid it

[Heresson]

Serbia was my milk cow. I wonder where did it get all this money from

[Heresson]

Oh, I recalled I had some thoughts concerning the geography:

1) Rodos did not belong to Venice, though it was promised to her, an independant state emerged there.
2)I'm not sure about Korfu. I think the historians aren't sure about it too.
3) Some cities in Thrace belonged to Venice; inland cities also, in fact. I believe it was Adrianoupolis, Arkadioupolis perhaps and one city on the shore (Perinthos?). I'm pretty sure when it comes to Adrianoupolis, but I have a map which shows Venitian posessities in Thrace as Philippoupolis, but I think it is a mistake. I'll have to check that.
4) SW Asia Minor was lost somewhat later I think, but You probably did it like that due to strategical reasons
5) Bulgaria...

Though yes, I know, it is not a quite historical scn

BTW, I need Greek name for Skopje and what is the correct Greek name for Trebizond?

[Varwnos]

Trebizond is Trapezous or Trapezounta (the latter is more common, but i am pretty sure that Trapezous is correct as well)

As for Skopje i am not sure if it had a different name at some period, but the greek name for it is Skopia.

Ochrid is Ochrida, but Achrida is more medieval greek (just though that you might need that as well)

[Heresson]

Thank You

[Gagliaudo]

Don't know if these may help for something, however...
Sorry for not excellent quality... and for language (italian... )

[Gagliaudo]

and this...

[Gagliaudo]

Now it's so, I know quality not excellent ...

As soon as possible, if someone's interested, I'll try to have them better, right?
Good evening you all