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    The Diplomatic thread for dealings with the Inca.

    Their leader is Isabella.

    The team is Civ.de

    Incan German [email protected] FRIENDLY - Peace till turn 150
    On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

  • #2
    To Incan

    November 20th



    Dear friends,

    We have read your friendly letter with pleasure.
    It seems like both our great civilizations have a common love for technological advancement and a common hate for troubles.
    Let us do like you proposed and share knowledge about tech paths so that we can mutually benefit from eachother.

    We accept your peace proposal and it's initial endurance.
    Lately we have run into the Zulu civilization and haven't been able yet to exchange communications with them.
    May we ask you to share your experiences with these Zulus from far away? Some of our people fear that these backwards people may be preparing an invasion army with the sole purpose of destruction out of envy of both our far more advanced civilizations. We will keep you posted.

    Kind regards,

    Sir Rho Berth

    Chief foreign Advisor of our beloved Queen Lizzy






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    To Us

    October 28th



    We thank you for you friendly warning.

    Regrettable, the scout, who was tasked with delivering the warning
    message to our council was so scared by the panther that he missed the
    way and did not find it back in time. We have received this message
    just now.
    The scour in question was thrown into the panther cages for training purposes.

    The Incan nation greets their neighbours and pays them the respect
    that your ambassador has paid us.
    Our emissary comes in peace and strives to expand his knowledge.

    The wise men of the Incas have asked the gods to unveil their will.
    The Oracle has spoken and revealed its wishes to them:
    Your people and our people are growing and multiplying, and the
    children of our peoples are to grow up without fear until our time
    repeats itself for the hundred-fiftieth time since the start of the
    world.
    The Inca people respect the will of the Gods and wish to know whether
    the Ottomans think alike.

    The Ottomans are not the only people we have encountered in these
    unknown lands but they are by far the friendliest.

    Both Ottomans and Incas are diligently inventing new technologies.
    However, they do not do this independently because each accomplishment
    of the one nation will cast a shadow on the other.
    The shadow can be of utmost importance, and if it is coordinated and
    arranged, it can be beneficial for both parties. Are the Ottoman
    scholars willing to discuss this with our astrologers?

    It would be wise to share knowledge in order to get to know this
    foreign world quicker and better and to stand our ground. So what do
    the Pashas of the Ottomans say on this?


    Signed
    The wise men of the Inca
    On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

    Comment


    • #3
      Our mail to Inca / CivDe:

      Sent by Calanthian. This was actually in September.



      Bellerophon adresses the first Incan citizens he meets:

      "Let me say it is a pleasure for me to be here near the sacred Gondar mountain and meet your proud civilization. Such a sacred place must surely be a good sign. It is a particular pleasure that we should have this meeting with your elders because we heard many stories about the Incan spirit of scientific curiosity, your beautiful works of art and your economical ability.

      We like to develop our civilization side-by-side with yours and start a fruitful relationship which brings mutual progress. Furthermore we like to safeguard regional security and stability, and promote trust and coordination between the Incan and Apolytan nations. "


      His scribe tries his best to translate Bellerophon's word into the diffcult Incan tongue:

      "Lassen Sie mich sagen, es ist mir ein Vergnügen, hier zu sein in die nähe der heiligen Berg Gondar und Ihre stolzen Zivilisation kennen zu lernen. Zo ein heiligen Platz kann nur Gutes bedeuten..

      Es ist mir eine besondere Freude, dass wir diese Konferenz haben, da wir viele Geschichten gehört haben über den wissenschaftlicher and neugieriger Geist der Inkas, ihre schönen Kunstwerke und ihre wirtschaftliche Fähigkeit. Wir möchten unsere Zivilisation Seite an Seite entwicklen mit Ihren und wir hoffen dass wir eine fruchtbare Beziehung starten, die gegenseitigen Fortschritte bringt.

      Darüber hinaus möchten wir die regionale Sicherheit and Stabilität vergrößern und Vertrauen und Koordinierung zwischen unseren beiden Nationen voranbringen. "
      On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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      • #4
        Reply received Posted by Calanthe

        Reply from Inca:


        The Incan people have listened with pleasure and relief to the well-spoken words of Bellerophon, the great Apolytan hero.
        He speaks words of wisdom, which sound nicely in our ears..
        We did not dare to expect to meet neighbors so well versed in the arts of diplomacy and look forward to the time where a fruitful relationship between our great nations will help us both to escape the dark ages and bring prosperity to us all.
        As a sign of mutual trust we kindly ask for the permission to send one of our people to your homelands in a peaceful mission.
        He will show you the respect which you showed to us and after his return by the shoreline he shall tell us of the many wonders and accomplishments your nation will surely have built by then.

        Das Inka-Volk lauscht mit Freude und Erleichterung den wohlgewählten Worten von Bellerophon, dem grossen Held von Apolyton.
        Er spricht Worte der Weisheit, die unsere Ohren erfreuen.
        Wir haben es nicht zu hoffen gewagt, Nachbarn zu treffen, die so diplomatiegewandt sind und schauen auf eine Zukunft, in der eine fruchtbare Zusammenarbeit unser beider Völker helfen wird, den dunklen Zeiten zu entkommen und uns allen Wohlstand zu bringen.
        Als ein Zeichen gegenseitigen Vertrauens erbitten wir höflich die Erlaubnis, einen unseres Volkes auf eine Friedensmission an eure Grenzen zu entsenden.
        Er wird euch den Respekt erweisen, den ihr uns erwiesen habt und nach seiner Rückkehr entlang der Küste wird er uns von den vielen Wundern und Errungenschaften erzählen, die eure Nation sicherlich bis dahin gebaut hat.
        On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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        • #5
          Sent by Robert October 5th

          To the people of the Incan Empire,

          With pleasure we have read your kind response.
          We, the Apolytan people, seek trade, friendship and trust with our neighbors. Therefore you are most welcome to visit our cities. Please bring goods for trading. As a gesture of our long-term friendly intentions we offer you to not aggressively expand into your direction.

          Sir Ro Berth
          Chief foreign Advisor of our beloved Queen Lizzy
          On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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          • #6
            Also sent at the same time Oct 5th.

            Dear Incan Neighbors,

            We have a message of high importance for you!
            Please be aware that near your city of Worms a group of dangerous panthers is hunting!
            Your group of Quecha warriors, located south-west of Worms, will be within their hunting zone if it moves to the south, the west or the south west.

            Our group of warriors are fortifying themselves as we speak on the hills near Worms to protect your city against these panthers.
            We will inform you as soon as we have neutralized the danger.

            Sir Rho Berth

            Chief foreign Advisor of our beloved Queen Lizzy
            On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

            Comment


            • #7
              Reply received in and around Nov 2nd 2012.

              Response from the Inca:

              (German text below)

              We thank you for you friendly warning.

              Regrettable, the scout, who was tasked with delivering the warning
              message to our council was so scared by the panther that he missed the
              way and did not find it back in time. We have received this message
              just now.
              The scour in question was thrown into the panther cages for training purposes.

              The Incan nation greets their neighbours and pays them the respect
              that your ambassador has paid us.
              Our emissary comes in peace and strives to expand his knowledge.

              The wise men of the Incas have asked the gods to unveil their will.
              The Oracle has spoken and revealed its wishes to them:
              Your people and our people are growing and multiplying, and the
              children of our peoples are to grow up without fear until our time
              repeats itself for the hundred-fiftieth time since the start of the
              world.
              The Inca people respect the will of the Gods and wish to know whether
              the Ottomans think alike.

              The Ottomans are not the only people we have encountered in these
              unknown lands but they are by far the friendliest.

              Both Ottomans and Incas are diligently inventing new technologies.
              However, they do not do this independently because each accomplishment
              of the one nation will cast a shadow on the other.
              The shadow can be of utmost importance, and if it is coordinated and
              arranged, it can be beneficial for both parties. Are the Ottoman
              scholars willing to discuss this with our astrologers?

              It would be wise to share knowledge in order to get to know this
              foreign world quicker and better and to stand our ground. So what do
              the Pashas of the Ottomans say on this?

              ------------------------------------------

              Vielen Dank für eure freundliche Warnung.
              Leider hat sich unser Späher, der eure Warnung überbringen sollte, vor
              lauter Angst vor dem Panther im Wald verlaufen, sodass wir diese
              Nachricht erst jetzt
              bekommen haben. Zum Training wurde er in den Pantherkäfig geworfen.

              Die Warnung zeigt uns jedoch, das ihr ernsthaft an guten Beziehungen
              interessiert seid.

              Die Inka-Zivilisation grüsst ihre Nachbarn und erweist den Respekt,
              den euer Botschafter uns erwiesen hat.
              Unser Forscher ist friedlich und strebt nur danach sein Wissen zu erweitern.

              Die Weisen der Inkas haben ihre Götter befragt um ihren Willen zu erfahren.
              Das Orakel hat gesprochen und den Weisen seinen Willen hinterlassen:
              Euer Volk und unser Volk wächst und vermehrt sich und die Kinder
              unserer Völker sollen bis zur hundertundfünfzigsten Wiederkehr der
              Zeitspanne seit des Startes ohne Furcht voreinander aufwachsen können.
              Die Inkas respektieren den Willen der Götter und wünschen zu erfahren,
              ob die Osmanen dies auch so sehen.

              Die Osmanen sind nicht die einzigen, die wir in diesem unbekannten
              Land angetroffen haben, jedoch bis jetzt die freundlichsten.

              Sowohl die Osmanen als auch die Inkas erfinden fleissig neue
              Technologien. Doch tun sie das nicht unabhängig voneinander, da jede
              Errungenschaft des einen einen Schatten auf den anderen wirft. Der
              Schatten kann wichtig sein, und wenn er abgesprochen wird, einen
              Vorteil für beide Seiten bieten.
              Sind die osmanischen Gelehrten bereit, dies mit unseren Sterndeutern
              abzusprechen?

              Weise wäre es, solches Wissen untereinander zu teilen, um besser und
              schneller diese fremde Welt kennenzulernen und sich hier zu behaupten.
              Was sagen die Paschas der Osmanen hierzu?
              On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

              Comment


              • #8
                This was drafted;

                To the Incans:

                [CONCEPT: will send it out in 24 hours or if 3 people agree and nobody disagrees]
                ----------------
                Dear friends,

                We have read your friendly letter with pleasure.
                It seems like both our great civilizations have a common love for technological advancement and a common hate for troubles.
                Let us do like you proposed and share knowledge about tech paths so that we can mutually benefit from eachother.

                We accept your peace proposal and it's initial endurance.
                Lately we have run into the Zulu civilization and haven't been able yet to exchange communications with them.
                May we ask you to share your experiences with these Zulus from far away? Some of our people fear that these backwards people may be preparing an invasion army with the sole purpose of destruction out of envy of both our far more advanced civilizations. We will keep you posted.

                Kind regards,

                Sir Rho Berth

                Chief foreign Advisor of our beloved Queen Lizzy
                On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

                Comment


                • #9
                  And was sent Nov 20th.

                  Sorry, I was away for a couple of days and had indeed forgotten to send out the messages to the Zulu and the Inca.
                  This has been done now.
                  On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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                  • #10
                    Here is draft new communication.

                    Our dear friends of the Inca,

                    It has been some time since we last were in contact. We didn’t wish to distract you while you were engaged in a war. We are pleased that you came out of the conflict strong and are now turning your attention to growth and learning.

                    We write because our chariot explorer has happened upon an Incan settler heading west. You will by now be familiar with our land so perhaps it is time to agree boundaries between our teams so that we can avoid disputes in the future.

                    For your information we have advanced plans to settle on a stone hill , 8 tiles west of your settlers current position.

                    It seems to us that the stretch of desert to your west and to our east would form a natural boundary between our two civilizations. What do you think?

                    We look forward to hearing from you.
                    i
                    your friends,

                    Hercules

                    Diplomatic Corp of Apolyton.
                    On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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                    • #11
                      Sent as amended because of urgency.

                      Our dear friends of the Inca,

                      It has been some time since we last were in contact. We didn’t wish to distract you while you were engaged in a war. We are pleased that you came out of the conflict strong and are now turning your attention to growth and learning.

                      We write because our chariot explorer has happened upon an Incan settler heading west. You will by now be familiar with our land so perhaps it is time to agree boundaries between our teams so that we can avoid disputes in the future.

                      It seems to us that the stretch of desert to your west and to our east would form a natural boundary between our two civilizations. What do you think?

                      We look forward to hearing from you.
                      i
                      your friends,

                      Hercules
                      On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Looks good. I take it they're trying to settle the area between our two empires? Is there any way we can snatch the stone before they do?
                        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dinner View Post
                          Looks good. I take it they're trying to settle the area between our two empires? Is there any way we can snatch the stone before they do?
                          We are hoping to grab it but also not to alert Inca that stone is there.
                          On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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                          • #14
                            Maybe we could recommend a spot to them where they could get both the rice and the wine but still give us enough room to get the stone? Or would that seem presumptuous? We really want to get along with them as they have a much larger army than we do.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #15
                              No reply yet from the Incans
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