Lizzy's rise to greatness

[Calanthian]

Messages have been sent via email and placed on their forum..

http://www.civforum.de/showthread.php?80175-Civ4-ISDG-2/page3

I added one line:

For clarity: we will retreat to were we came from.

(and then we will move SW next turn )

[Calanthian]

I plan to write the following message:



Bellerophon adresses the first Incan citizens he meets:

"Let me say it is a pleasure for me to be here near the sacred Gondar mountain and meet your proud civilization. Such a sacred place must surely be a good sign. It is a particular pleasure that we should have this meeting with your elders because we heard many stories about the Incan spirit of scientific curiosity, your beautiful works of art and your economical ability.

We like to develop our civilization side-by-side with yours and start a fruitful relationship which brings mutual progress. Furthermore we like to safeguard regional security and stability, and promote trust and coordination between the Incan and Apolytan nations. "


His scribe tries his best to translate Bellerophon's word into the diffcult Incan tongue:

"Lassen Sie mich sagen, es ist mir ein Vergnügen, hier zu sein in die nähe der heiligen Berg Gondar und Ihre stolzen Zivilisation kennen zu lernen. Zo ein heiligen Platz kann nur Gutes bedeuten..

Es ist mir eine besondere Freude, dass wir diese Konferenz haben, da wir viele Geschichten gehört haben über den wissenschaftlicher and neugieriger Geist der Inkas, ihre schönen Kunstwerke und ihre wirtschaftliche Fähigkeit. Wir möchten unsere Zivilisation Seite an Seite entwicklen mit Ihren und wir hoffen dass wir eine fruchtbare Beziehung starten, die gegenseitigen Fortschritte bringt.

Darüber hinaus möchten wir die regionale Sicherheit and Stabilität vergrößern und Vertrauen und Koordinierung zwischen unseren beiden Nationen voranbringen. "

[Calanthian]

I found that we already made an adress:

DOES ANYONE CHECK THIS ADRESS???

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[Calanthian]

Good suggestion.. as I am Dutch I know a little german..
so both German and English will be good.

Any suggestions for the message are appreciated.
By the way: do we set up an account for the diplo side of this game?

[Hercules]

At the same time I'll make a nice peaceloving and all statement via the diplo screen..
so IMO absolutely nothing to be angry about.

Are you sending the message in English or German or both. I know when team Civ.de signed up for the game they knew as did the other teams, English would be the common diplo language, but I wonder if some Deutsch would be seen as a friendly gesture and set a tone.

[Calanthian]

At the same time I'll make a nice peaceloving and all statement via the diplo screen..
so IMO absolutely nothing to be angry about.

[mzprox]

I am available to make Bellerophon's (double) move in the last hour of the turn..

ok, i just wanted to do it, but i let you. (I wouldn't really do it if it was just up to me, because it's kinda double move, which they might take as an aggressive move on our part. (ok we won't declare war but they will see that we intentionally did this an they might get angry on us)

[Calanthian]

I am available to make Bellerophon's (double) move in the last hour of the turn..

[mzprox]

on GNP: at that time no one had 3 cities (holy rome just has now), gnp from espionage is added even without contact, researching small tech like mining actually makes gnp lower (0% bonus for mining, +40% for pottery), research bonuses from contacts are not that significant.
that particular civ has 8-10 more commerce than us which is a lot. at least we are second..

[mzprox]

So far most in favor in making contact. someone may want to compose a letter for them maybe?

[Dinner]

OK, so I vote for peaceful contact.

[DNK]

If they have 3 cities and a cultural trait, it's 6culture + 4 ESP, a 10GNP difference.

What's that, like a 25% difference over us? Not knowing the numbers, it's hard to know if that's enough.

[Ben Kenobi]

"My lord, let us ally with our neighbours now and ravage them later"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFQDeYXq_iw&feature=relmfu

4:40.

[OzzyKP]

Why not ally? 1+2 together will ensure that both of us will see through to the finish.

I agree completely. Alliances in a game like this are the most important thing. Plus I'm most worried about CFC and Realms Beyond anyhow, so it'd be better to ally with someone else who is doing well (the germans). Let's make contact (like Cal suggested, a double move to throw them off) and then become buddy-buddy.

The civ that is top in GNP probably has met a neighbor so gets the 4 espionage, and tech boost from the neighbor. Or they could be inventing something basic like mining or something.

[Calanthian]

We have killed the lion, though not without injury, we need two turns to heal. (4/5 xp)

Good to see that the wait and fortify strategy worked

On rocketing tech: on the other hand there is no civ very much ahead of us in tech.. and our cottages will kick in soon.